Is the c8 too expensive?

[IPOGT]

My 22 Mustang GT is premium with all the features and i can sell it for almost what i paid, but the base c8 is pretty stripped down feature wise and they say you should get the 2LT and i dont think the z51 package is worth it but even 2lt c8 is about 78k and I never spent that much on a car before and idk if its worth it I feel like at that price i would rather have a GT500 cause even if its slower it still has the utility of back seats that can be folded down to carry stuff

otherwise what car would be a step up from mustang GT but cheaper than c8 or gt500?

My 22 Mustang GT is premium with all the features and i can sell it for almost what i paid, but the base c8 is pretty stripped down feature wise and they say you should get the 2LT and i dont think the z51 package is worth it but even 2lt c8 is about 78k and I never spent that much on a car before and idk if its worth it I feel like at that price i would rather have a GT500 cause even if its slower it still has the utility of back seats that can be folded down to carry stuff

otherwise what car would be a step up from mustang GT but cheaper than c8 or gt500?

Not too expensive. Too damn ugly. The back of that thing looks like it has a closet door stuck on its @ss.

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[MAGS1]

Oh god, yes.

A DCT is still an automatic transmission and every one I've driven has offended me.

The least offensive was in a Mazda 6 I rented in 2007. The automatics I've driven since then were actually dumber and less responsive, including a 10-speed Mustang.

And clicking a paddle is still not shifting, but a shift request to a black box. It's not a substitute for having the transmission I wanted in the first place.

Which DCT’s have you actually driven? To compare the DCT in a GT500 and C8 to a standard auto trans like the 10R80 is an absolute joke. The 10R80 is nowhere near the same realm as the DCT in a 500/C8. You’re basing your DCT opinion on Mazda’s from 17 years ago? Oh boy…

 

[Zathras]

I don't know if it's "actually" too expensive, as it's still a good value compared to imported sports cars. And from GM's point of view, it's selling well, which is mostly what matters.

But psychologically, it's become too expensive for me to be comfortable with. If I really wanted one, I could "afford" it, but it would impact other aspects of my finances that have become more important.

I don't feel that old, but I am definitely at the point where I'm shocked at the prices of some things (new cars, housing) and I just can't bring myself to drop $70K or more on a car. I remember when a new Mustang GT had a base MSRP of like $12,000 and a Corvette was in the low 30s. 40K would buy something pretty special: like a lower end Porsche, mid-range BMW, etc.

With those memories in my head, dropping 70K on a car just seems like setting money on fire. My first house (and still current) only cost twice that amount. But to a younger person with a higher income I realize they have a whole different point of reference as to what "expensive" means.

 

[ShadesOfBloo]

Which DCT’s have you actually driven? To compare the DCT in a GT500 and C8 to a standard auto trans like the 10R80 is an absolute joke. The 10R80 is nowhere near the same realm as the DCT in a 500/C8. You’re basing your DCT opinion on Mazda’s from 17 years ago? Oh boy…

If you read the part about the 10-speed, you know I'm not just basing my DCT opinion on a car from 17 years ago, don't you?

 

[loucas-2021]

C8 is a bargain. Mid-engines, well-engineered car that keeps up with much more expensive cars. Mustang - especially a regular GT is not even remotely comparable to a C8.

Totally agree. The C8 is a steal! Dry sump, DCT, Mid-Engine, and if you go for the E-Ray you get AWD as well, all while hitting 0-60 in ~3 seconds or less. If I was looking to upgrade from my GT I'd be getting one. It still blows my mind that cars like the GT350 and the GT500 use conventional wet sump oil systems. And yes, for better or worse it does not come with a manual transmission.

 

[MAGS1]

If you read the part about the 10-speed, you know I'm not just basing my DCT opinion on a car from 17 years ago, don't you?

So what other DCT’s have you driven then? They’re not all equal. If you prefer the manual, that’s fine, your choice.

But the C8 and GT500 DCT’s are fantastic transmissions. The 10 speed (not a DCT) can’t hold a candle to either one, and I own one. I don’t know understand why there’s a comparison being made to a standard automatic transmission and a DCT. They are not in the same league at all (at least not in the cars being referenced here).

 

[Jxp1962]

C8 is a bargain. Mid-engines, well-engineered car that keeps up with much more expensive cars. Mustang - especially a regular GT is not even remotely comparable to a C8.

Totally agree. The C8 is a steal! Dry sump, DCT, Mid-Engine, and if you go for the E-Ray you get AWD as well, all while hitting 0-60 in ~3 seconds or less. If I was looking to upgrade from my GT I'd be getting one. It still blows my mind that cars like the GT350 and the GT500 use conventional wet sump oil systems. And yes, for better or worse it does not come with a manual transmission.

I tend to agree, and the c8 in 2020 and 2021 base price was 59k, no options…. Thats about the sticker price of my 22 gt vert.
I LOVE my gt vert, but it is a total different animal than the c8. The gt reminds me of an old school muscle car, but the c8 is like a poor mans race car.

i am sad that the eray and z06 are so expensive… out of my range… when the c8 came out it was pricy but not out of range for the average guy…

Talk about expensive… maybe too expensive… the z06 and eray jumped into the 110-130 range… practically what i paid for my house lol

 

[ShadesOfBloo]

If you prefer the manual, that’s fine, your choice.

Right there, that's the point.

I don’t understand why there’s a comparison being made to a standard automatic transmission and a DCT.

It's not a "comparison". A DCT automatic and a torque converter automatic are both automatics, and are actively taking something away from me. Damn right, I'll lump all of them together.

Ford gave me a choice, and I chose what I wanted.
Chevy's fiberglass car doesn't come with that choice, looks really stupid, and gives me no reason think it has any higher quality than the fiberglass cars before it.

 

[COYOTE_64S25FEF]

But psychologically, it's become too expensive for me to be comfortable with. If I really wanted one, I could "afford" it, but it would impact other aspects of my finances that have become more important.

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I just can't bring myself to drop $70K or more on a car.

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With those memories in my head, dropping 70K on a car just seems like setting money on fire.

You’re not dropping $70k. You’re only dropping $70k minus whatever $XXk you sell it for (+running costs). Just have to be comfortable with those costs in the interim.

I see many people worry about inflated costs vs XX years ago. Remember, if your spending doesn’t keep up with the cost of living/inflation/etc., you’ll gradually experience a loss in your standard of living. Of course, I understand that one’s income has to keep up, too.

All that said, your first point makes me want to encourage you to maybe rent one for a weekend and see if that scratches the itch enough. I find that renting my fun either tells me I’m fine without it or lights a new fire to figure out how to obtain it.

 

[kz]

This discussion - as all of them goes in a weird direction.
"C8 is crap because it doesn't have the manual". Yeah, I like manuals too, drove them my entire life but this is dumb as shit.

It's objectively a very good car that's much cheaper than anything it its class. Hint - Mustang is not in its class. For the upteenth time.
Whether someone likes its transmission is completely irrelevant from a perspective of how good this car is. GT3 with a PDK is also terrible I'm sure. LOL.

 

[MAGS1]

Right there, that's the point.



It's not a "comparison". A DCT automatic and a torque converter automatic are both automatics.

Ford gave me a choice, and I chose what I wanted.
Chevy's fiberglass car doesn't come with that choice, looks really stupid, and gives me no reason think it has any higher quality than the fiberglass cars before it.

Fair enough. I just don’t think lumping the 10R80 (or any other standard automatic trans) with a DCT is fair at all to the DCT, particularly with the cars being discussed. It’s a fantastic transmission, albeit not for everyone.

And I’m glad Ford offers you the transmission of your choice (and still do to this day), Corvette owners aren’t so lucky (if they want a C8).

 

[S550HPP]

For an agile extra 20K+/- can get LC500 that looks amazing with aftermarket wheels.

 

[Qcman17]

I’m not sure if I like the looks of the C8 to this day. Certain angles look amazing others look ugly to me. With that said the car is a serious performance value imho and is reasonably priced. Hell the Mustang is the one that’s too expensive for what you get these days. I love my GT but it was cheap and the things that could be better about it reflected the price I paid.

It’s too bad Ford cheaps out on transmissions in both auto and manual versions.

 

[320guy]

I would love an e-ray. I could afford one, but it doesn’t make sense getting rid of my 2yr old Mach1. Which I love and people stares at it.

I still remember seeing C7 Z06s in the 70-80k range. The GT500 I wanted was 82k, but couldn’t get an allocation and not overpaying for a car.

When I was looking for a the Mach1, a dealer wanted 20k above Msrp. All this price increases are the manufacturers saying “if they can pay 20k above market, then the market will start 20k above of the price we were intended to”.

I just can’t justify paying $130k for a car.

 

[detamble13]

The Corvette is a great car that should indeed offer a manual. If you can afford one and the lack of three pedals doesn't negatively impact your driving experience go for it.

As for GMs quality, if you're good buying Ford you can be comfortable buying a Chevy. I've owned several and my 13 year old Camaro with an LS3 and Tremec still put a smile on my face. Regular maintenance is key as with all vehicles. I'm also very glad Ford still builds a 2 door Mustang and it's existence is important to the company.

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