GTD Wing - Who'll Be First?

[Skye]

You really think a company like Multimatic would put that thing on a $300,000 track focused car just for show?

No, not at all. I do not doubt they collaborated with Ford and others to build a capable design.

I was attempting (not very good it would seem, ) to consider how well non-650 owners would benefit.

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[5.2 liters of democracy]

I mean AJ and Nine Lives already know the data on the aerofoil and both offer swan mount wings currently. The only difference is whatever you get from the mounting solution vs a standard mounting solution.

That's what makes this so interesting too, we will likely see the exact gains the mounts provide. Given the length of the mounts, in theory, you're creating more leverage. My thoughts are that you could achieve the same level of downforce as a traditional design, but use a lower drag wing since you have leverage on your side. Very exciting stuff.

 

[mavisky]

That's what makes this so interesting too, we will likely see the exact gains the mounts provide. Given the length of the mounts, in theory, you're creating more leverage. My thoughts are that you could achieve the same level of downforce as a traditional design, but use a lower drag wing since you have leverage on your side. Very exciting stuff.

Just to temper your hopes and dreams, the team behind the GTD confirmed that the mounting location of the wing came from the GTD design briefs and not the development of the GT3 car. Once the wing mounting was determined, Multimatic worked to make the profile meet their targets. This means that they likely could have achieved the same targets from a more conventionally mounted wing. If anything the arms may provide additional Lateral stability the way many of the modern LMP cars all utilize their central spine.

 

[5.2 liters of democracy]

Just to temper your hopes and dreams, the team behind the GTD confirmed that the mounting location of the wing came from the GTD design briefs and not the development of the GT3 car. Once the wing mounting was determined, Multimatic worked to make the profile meet their targets. This means that they likely could have achieved the same targets from a more conventionally mounted wing. If anything the arms may provide additional Lateral stability the way many of the modern LMP cars all utilize their central spine.

I honestly don't have any hopes or dreams associated with it. I already have my wing, I'm just curious to see the data come out of it. I just love seeing stuff for this platform.

 

[mavisky]

Same here. My assumption is that the effort won't be worth the tradeoff that it's far easier to make more downforce at the rear of the car than you can easily balance with aero at the front.

 

[MAGS1]

Can we please let the GTD wing stay on the GTD and stop copying the newest shiny object like we mustang fans always do? We just look stupid constantly swapping cool things from other models and putting them on all our models, cheapens the brand in an already cheap image Ford shoots for. Kinda like when GT guys put the front end of a GT500 when we all know they can't afford a GT500, so why not just copy all the parts and call it "cool"......Same goes for GTD parts.

Imitation is the highest form of flattery. And it can’t be any worse than some of the Civic’s and such around here with patio tables mounted on the trunk and 8 different tow hooks all over the car.

No objections here to others putting a GT500 hood, spoiler, etc. on their car if they like the looks and/or functionality of them. Make the car your own, however you like it. Just don’t put snake badges on the car when it’s not one.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

That's what makes this so interesting too, we will likely see the exact gains the mounts provide. Given the length of the mounts, in theory, you're creating more leverage. My thoughts are that you could achieve the same level of downforce as a traditional design, but use a lower drag wing since you have leverage on your side. Very exciting stuff.

Doesn't moving the wing farther back also lighten the front? With any wing, the rear wheels are sort of a fulcrum of a see-saw.

 

[NightmareMoon]

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[Epiphany]

I wonder how many owners would be willing to give up their trunk.

The engineers responsible for this wing configuration could have designed a pivot/locking arm or base that would have allowed full functionality. Whether it was a liability matter, budgetary, or the intent to somehow reduce overall complexity...I hope to hear some of the discussion that took place that led to what was ultimately given the green light.

How many Lizzo's/Oprah's would it take to flip the car vertically if "they" mash potato asses were to grace that airfoil?

 

[NightmareMoon]

Doesn't moving the wing farther back also lighten the front? With any wing, the rear wheels are sort of a fulcrum of a see-saw.

yeah the rear wheels are a fulcrum.

placing the wing far back magnifies the effect over the rear wheels but lifts the front some.

without my front splitter and just the rear wing I roll down the highway at 80 doing wheelies. Not really but you can feel the difference in the steering alone.

 

[Tomster]

The amount of potential downforce that wing produces makes me wonder if the mounting arms can handle that kind of moment.

Personally, the typical swan neck approach seems much more sound.

And what's wrong with the GT4 approach?

No thanks....

 

[Tomster]

yeah the rear wheels are a fulcrum.

placing the wing far back magnifies the effect over the rear wheels but lifts the front some.

without my front splitter and just the rear wing I roll down the highway at 80 doing wheelies. Not really but you can feel the difference in the steering alone.

Any aero has to be balanced. I wouldn't go so far as say wheelies, but I would suggest a possible understeer condition if presented with unbalanced aero and the right circumstances.

 

[Epiphany]

Aero benefits aside from the GTD's wing design, I have to give props to the mere choice made to blatantly be different and to try a somewhat unconventional approach instead. Functionality with a very distinct style. It is provocative as f*** and the fact that Multimatic's best worked with Ford's best to make it a reality...doesn't get much more badass than that. The car itself is a shot of some well needed toxic masculinity in the tiptoe era and amen to that.

 

[Hack]

Doesn't moving the wing farther back also lighten the front? With any wing, the rear wheels are sort of a fulcrum of a see-saw.

The location of the airfoil does change how the forces from it interact with the car. The combination of drag and down force of a wing above or behind the rear wheels will lift the front.

However, the MOUNTING and whether the mounts are straight down from the wing or angled forward doesn't matter (other than thick mounts might have more drag, etc.).

To me, the GTD wing appears to be in a fairly traditional location over the rear of the car. It's just the mounting that is unique.

 

[CR151S]

The location of the airfoil does change how the forces from it interact with the car. The combination of drag and down force of a wing above or behind the rear wheels will lift the front.

However, the MOUNTING and whether the mounts are straight down from the wing or angled forward doesn't matter (other than thick mounts might have more drag, etc.).

To me, the GTD wing appears to be in a fairly traditional location over the rear of the car. It's just the mounting that is unique.

Yep. And I think the applied force might actually place more pressure directly over the rear wheels when compared to traditional mounting.

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