Is MagneRide a must have?

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How?

I bought the mag kit for my old car. When I bought my Mach I called ford performance and asked them if any of the kit could be used. They told me the springs and sways were all that could be used because the vdm programming was very similar to the PP2 and standard GT350 cars.

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[luca1290]

For me it's a must have option.
You have the best of both worlds, I can't see any downsides in the system. The components are pretty simple (mostly static electronics...) and it shouldn't break easily.

 

[Arknsawchuck]

I’ve had two mustangs without MR and my current one has it. For a daily or mountain road fun I love it. If I was building a race car I’d go without it. It does well on auto cross and road courses but I’d rather spend my money on a good coilover step up for track use.

 

[TeeLew]

I’ve had two mustangs without MR and my current one has it. For a daily or mountain road fun I love it. If I was building a race car I’d go without it. It does well on auto cross and road courses but I’d rather spend my money on a good coilover step up for track use.

Well said. In its element, I think the Mag does great. Even though it has the potential to do a lot of tricky stuff, a good coil-over kit will ultimately be better on on track because the physical architecture of the damper is better. The race damper just is bad for the daily compromise. I think the HD models are an improvement, but there's still no way to match a good race-quality damper with an off-the-shelf automotive unit.

 

[Brisvegas]

Magnaride works by changing the viscosity of the oil to vary the level of damping . It's convenient this can be done electronically but a good adjustable shock absorber is capable of doing this by adjusting the area of the valving restriction mechanically . You can get the same softer suspension feel but you can't do it from the driver's seat . You need to get out of the car and twist some knobs. Certainly not as convenient but infinitely way more tunable . Magnaride is perfect if you want to daily drive comfortably and occasionally do a canyon carve but if you want to drive to the limit it's a big compromise . I didn't want the magnaride and opted for adjustable height adjustable damper coilovers for the tune ability and the ability to turn down the damping 4 softer daily driving ride . It literally only takes a couple of minutes to turn those knobs .

 

[kz]

So they produce higher damping force for the same cur

Magnaride works by changing the viscosity of the oil to vary the level of damping . It's convenient this can be done electronically but a good adjustable shock absorber is capable of doing this by adjusting the area of the valving restriction mechanically .

Can it do it while you drive based on speed, lateral G and many many other factors ? This is where its strength is and it shines in a daily driving use.

99% of drivers on this forum don't drive at the limit (regardless what they think, especially those that do "canyon carving" or "spirited driving"). Also there is a lot of cheap coilovers that aren't that good.

Magride cars have different calibrations from factory that are tied to the drive modes btw - Normal, Sport and Track.

 

[dpAtlanta]

Is MagneRide a must have?

I was not offered a chance to NOT have it... they shoved it down my throat.
They spelled it differently, but it's the same thing I believe.
Those bastards also insisted that I had NO choice on getting a Cross-Plane crank... WTF?
And all of the extra weight for all of these coolers... can I delete................ NO!
The damn thing sounds like Chewbacca gargling............ Ford says I have to live with it, there is no fix!

If you don't have it, consider yourself lucky, I had no OPTION.

 

[Brisvegas]

So they produce higher damping force for the same cur


Can it do it while you drive based on speed, lateral G and many many other factors ? This is where its strength is and it shines in a daily driving use.

99% of drivers on this forum don't drive at the limit (regardless what they think, especially those that do "canyon carving" or "spirited driving"). Also there is a lot of cheap coilovers that aren't that good.

Magride cars have different calibrations from factory that are tied to the drive modes btw - Normal, Sport and Track.

your lips are moving but you aint saying anything . There is a lot of cheap stuff thats no good thanks captain obvious . I said magneride is convenient , thats about all it is . Carry on .


" Magnaride is perfect if you want to daily drive comfortably and occasionally do a canyon carve but if you want to drive to the limit it's a big compromise " Hello earth to kz , someone here spitting facts but your comprehension is lacking

If you got nothing to say , say nothing .......

 

[kz]

your lips are moving but you aint saying anything . There is a lot of cheap stuff thats no good thanks captain obvious . I said magneride is convenient , thats about all it is . Carry on .

LOL - out of arguments ? Convenient ? You either have confirmation bias (mah coilovers are the bestest !) or no idea how Magride works (btw - it's easy to convert it to be ride heights adjustable)

" Magnaride works by changing the viscosity of the oil to vary the level of damping . It's convenient this can be done electronically but a good adjustable shock absorber is capable of doing this by adjusting the area of the valving restriction mechanically "

Not, it can't - on the fly adjustments based on what car is doing is the entire reason for Magride , not doing something that passive dampers do in a different way. There is a reason lots of street cars that cost several times more than Mustangs are running them.

 

[TeeLew]

Laugh all you want, Jack, kz has been out weekend after weekend. He knows what he's talking about.

The shortcoming of the Magneride dampers is how they make force. They just can't react as fast or with the consistency of a shim damper. That in no way should suggest that all shim dampers are the same. Most options are pretty awful.

JRi, Ohlins and Dynamic/Multimatic (not shim, but not MR, either) are all examples of very good damper packages. I think it would be difficult for a Magneride car to compete in terms of lap time with a car with these types of dampers on track. Where the Magneride starts looking pretty shiny is when you compare it to Bilstein, Koni, Ford Perf., Steeda, etc. type dampers. In this scenario, the base architecture is at least as good and the MR component gives you a ton of room to tune the car. When you leave the track, the ride home is very nice. How else do you get that?

 

[Egparson202]

your lips are moving but you aint saying anything . There is a lot of cheap stuff thats no good thanks captain obvious . I said magneride is convenient , thats about all it is . Carry on .


" Magnaride is perfect if you want to daily drive comfortably and occasionally do a canyon carve but if you want to drive to the limit it's a big compromise " Hello earth to kz , someone here spitting facts but your comprehension is lacking

If you got nothing to say , say nothing .......

Thank goodness we have you here to save us. I really mean it. You’re likely the only one here who knows anything about driving to the limit. We’re all overwhelmed by the tremendous value of your opinion.

Thank you so much.

 

[ShadesOfBloo]

Doesn't seem like it's a worthwhile mod :

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...t-compensation-pdc.179081/page-2#post-3740817



WD

Hmmm…. Maybe I need the Mach 1 steering software more than the hardware

 

[Hack]

I owned a GT350 with mag ride and drove it a lot, I also owned a 2015 base car and my current 2017 PP1 GT. So I have some experience with different Mustang suspensions.

I by no means think magneride is a must have. I think it's nice, and if you plan to keep a car a limited amount of time or don't mind having expensive consumable items on your car it makes some sense.

I do think the magneride helps to control the car's body motions better than any non-programmable shock. For a given level of suspension stiffness, magneride reduces the amount of wallowing around.

However, the shocks are expensive to replace and in my opinion they have a bit of an artificial feel. I prefer conventional shocks and stiffer springs. Given the option, I would not purchase magneride on a Mustang.

Take that for what it's worth. I see some people in this thread think that standard GT suspension is harsh. To me, that is crazy. I think the PP1 suspension is far too soft for any kind of performance driving (unless it's all straight line stuff). To me, the PP1 suspension felt like luxury car territory. The base GT suspension is complete mush.

I think the Ford Performance track handling kit is a good substitute (and I prefer it over) the magneride setup the GT350 had. It's comfortable on the street and body motions on track aren't too bad. I still prefer the magneride slightly on track, but on the street where I do most of my driving I think the conventional shocks are better.

And for being called a track handling kit it's still very comfortable. Softer than my GR86 stock suspension and a lot softer than the Fiesta ST I used to own.

But if a person wants a compliant ride with good body control combined, I would recommend a lighter car ~3,000 lbs or less that is lower to the ground. I would also recommend something with SLA suspension rather than struts. The Mustang struts are pretty good considering all the different tasks they must accomplish. But it was a real eye opener owning a C5 Z06 - how much better handling can be with a compliant suspension plus really good body control. That car had many problems, but the suspension was terrific.

 

[gameovergt]

No. But Steeda is only an order away.

 

[Qcman17]

Is MagneRide a must have?

I was not offered a chance to NOT have it... they shoved it down my throat.
They spelled it differently, but it's the same thing I believe.
Those bastards also insisted that I had NO choice on getting a Cross-Plane crank... WTF?
And all of the extra weight for all of these coolers... can I delete................ NO!
The damn thing sounds like Chewbacca gargling............ Ford says I have to live with it, there is no fix!

If you don't have it, consider yourself lucky, I had no OPTION.

Don’t let those first world problems get you down it really isn’t as bad as it seems.

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