To be completely honest, that isn't going to improve overall performance. You're losing gears and not shifting any faster at WOT. It may be cooler to say you have a DCT, or run cooler on long track events but other than that it's alot of work and money for not much benefits.
I only heard heartache from end users on this valve body. Do you have it and have got it working well? Or know someone that has? I'd just like understand the basis for your confidence. I see there is a more traditional simple shift kit out there too. I forget who makes that one. Thank you for any further info. I'm interested in making the most of what this trans can be with my 510 rwhp NA build.
Yer just loosing some overdrives w/ the DCT. DCT 229lbs, 10R80 230lbs
Yes my friend did. She also got a converter from them as well.
100% agree! A DCT swap would not net you many performance gains. In fact, if you run a supercharged GT with slightly less hp than a GT500 the 10R80 beats it every time. The 10R80 is good because of how close the ratios are. In reality we are talking milliseconds that separate how fast the transmissions shift at. In terms of straight line speed I'd pick the 10R80 vs the 7 speed dot simply because of the ratios.
Can no one here account for the latency? It's pretty predictable, just click downshift half a second before you want to its pretty simple really. Seems like just incapable drivers IMO, its a minor inconvenience that is easily bypassed.
As opposed to the latency that it takes for a manual shift to happen between the gear change and releasing of the clutch.
sure, but is it unreasonable that when commanded the hardware follows thru in a timely fashion? It's capable of it, obviously. Just needs software not written by Ford Mustang team.
The latency is more than likely a "safety" feature designed to prevent unnecessary wear and tear on the trans. So yes technically if that wasn't built into the shift procedure then it could shift as fast or faster than a DCT.
Sure but then are you ok downshifting 3 times and it goes through each gear (which would take longer and be more frustrating) or would you rather downshift 3 times and it goes immediately to that gear? The latency is for a number of reasons, single clutch, wait period for user input (how many gears do you want to shift down), the rev match, and then finally adjusting line pressure through the shift. It’s there for a reason but the biggest delay is probably waiting to see how many shifts the user has commanded.
This.
I'm not doubting your accuracy, but the verbiage reminded me of this:
The damn irony here is that Ford led the development of the 10 Spd...Chevy led development of a 9 Spd which Ford opted to not even use. Yet GM software is better, and it even has the feature where you can hold the left paddle to get the lowest available gear which Ford for some reason omitted. $%^#
