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Just curious, Now that some time has passed for some of you with this tune / pack, do you feel any differently about it as the fuel trims/ecu got used to everything? Like if you you were initially disappointed, has that changed?

Did anyone else run it at the track yet?
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I think it all depends. As far as BMW is concerned the S65 engine in the E92 M3 used its spark plugs as knock sensors. The MMT would coat the plugs with a nice orange hue and did effect the plugs ability to operate as knock sensors.
Sounds like another German design flaw. ;)
 

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Sounds like another German design flaw. ;)
To be honest the S65 was a NA wetdream. Individual throttle bodies for each cylinder, a throttle response that literally was telepathic. Car pulled all the way to redline at 8400rpm, and the gearing was pretty much perfectly matched to the car. I have had my 2020 Mustang GT now for 2 mos. and I miss the roar of the intake howl. I am hoping this FRPP kit will give me some of that as of the somewhat opened design of the CAI.
 

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To be honest the S65 was a NA wetdream. Individual throttle bodies for each cylinder, a throttle response that literally was telepathic. Car pulled all the way to redline at 8400rpm, and the gearing was pretty much perfectly matched to the car. I have had my 2020 Mustang GT now for 2 mos. and I miss the roar of the intake howl. I am hoping this FRPP kit will give me some of that as of the somewhat opened design of the CAI.
Eh, I can't hear my intake over the sound of my exhaust. Going E85 pretty much made the car a different animal. Traction is really the only problem now.

I just like to make fun of German cars, as I work for a German auto company and have a lot of experience fixing poor design issues. :)
 

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Eh, I can't hear my intake over the sound of my exhaust. Going E85 pretty much made the car a different animal. Traction is really the only problem now.

I just like to make fun of German cars, as I work for a German auto company and have a lot of experience fixing poor design issues. :)
Suspension and tire makes the traction alot more controllable and the power much more usable. Agreed e completely transforms this platform.
 

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Im really curious to find out how this package perform against a lund ots 93 octane tune.
 

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Im really curious to find out how this package perform against a lund ots 93 octane tune.
93 to 93 < 20whp so comparable power. But the shifts on the Lund would be more aggressive. Either would be especially advantageous to cars not equipped with drive modes.
 

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Mine has the drive mode its a pp1 with 3.55. But the a10 shift the 6-7 earlier than 7500 rpm its a shame that its tune that way from factory. and no launch control while gm has it on the camaro and zl1 :(
 

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From someone whos got the a10, is it really worth it over stock ? i don't want to get ripped off
 

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From someone whos got the a10, is it really worth it over stock ? i don't want to get ripped off
I'd say not really for an A10 unless it's someone who wants a semi warrantied option over performance. If that is not the case and its available in your area consider an e85 or flex tune. That will completely change the car and actually costs less. By far best bang for the buck single mod.
 

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I'd say not really for an A10 unless it's someone who wants a semi warrantied option over performance. If that is not the case and its available in your area consider an e85 or flex tune. That will completely change the car and actually costs less. By far best bang for the buck single mod.
I wish we had e85 at the pump. Only 94 or less
 

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I wish we had e85 at the pump. Only 94 or less
In that case long tubes and AED/Lund/PBD tune for the fuel you have available?
 

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I came across this video on youtube, someone got only 5+ HP and 7+ TQ on dyno after the install.

 

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I came across this video on youtube, someone got only 5+ HP and 7+ TQ on dyno after the install.

Even going in with no expectations that would be pretty disappointing after paying that much. To be fair though I'd say that example is pretty low most are getting about the 15whp range on avg. Again its a fine kit for warranty minded people. But for performance seeking or best bang for the buck there are definitely better options.
 

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Even going in with no expectations that would be pretty disappointing after paying that much. To be fair though I'd say that example is pretty low most are getting about the 15whp range on avg. Again its a fine kit for warranty minded people. But for performance seeking or best bang for the buck there are definitely better options.
It has a lot of safety margin built in. Mine feels very much stock on these 80/90° days where the humidity is high. It just makes me wish we had higher octane available.
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