I'm going to bet there are more "performance" cars available with a DCT and/or AT only option, than there are presently offered with a manual offering along side of it today.
Odds are you'd be correct. Reason being less and less people can drive a manual at all - much less drive it without bad things happening in an high performance car. I wouldn't be surprised if the bean counters helped with that one too... "See how many warranty claims we wouldn't have to pay if these cars were all automatic?"
I drive a manual quite well. I choose the better A10 for my 18 GT. My 73 Cutlass Supreme 455 will stay a 4 speed.
I figured someone would post up LOL. I'm not saying people who can drive a manual won't choose the Automatic. It's a numbers game. Of course when it comes to HIGH performance applications, having a manual transmission is sometimes seen as a "gap" when everything else is controlled by computer. In other words, dumping the clutch and losing control or damaging something.
I wasn't talking in terms of how many nameplates or the number of models or trims. I was looking at the MT sales numbers compared to the total in each of the various segments.
I imagine they can get a good idea looking at take rates for the Mustang GT. They would also be able to see what effect offering the PP with an auto had on manual take rate. Then they would make an educated guess on how many buyers would be so put off by the lack of manual option that they simply would not purchase the car at all. Somewhere in that data Ford came to the conclusion that a DCT would offer a compromise that would minimize the number of buyers that would refuse to buy a non-manual GT500 while maximizing it's performance.
I would imagine that they did the same when they put MTs-only in the GT350 and the Bullitt.
And the last GT500
Oh, I'm sure they did, that's not a contradiction in the case of "manual v. <whatever>", it's how it works. However, keep in mind that kind of data only helps to inform their decision, other factors are present when they consider: what and how to build it, pricing/EOS, target markets, competitive landscape - and that's all a snapshot in time as well, based on currently available tech, and shifts in the marketspace (which could be radically different from 10 years ago or even __2__ years ago ...)
i dont know anything about those 2 cars. its not a car i find remotely enticing, so i dont understand the context
i doubt fpc will end up in anything else. i truly dont understand the bullitt other than connected to a movie reference. I was just looking for new 350s and the bullits were constantly there, but i saw nothing that was vastly different from a gt, or remotley similar to the 350.
i dont buy that at all. the r&d for dct, tooling and warranty claims are going to be astronomical compared to a manual. i bet once offerred that dct is going to have a retail of over $15k alone. now, i dont know the profit margin, but that trans alone is not a cost benefit in a single application like this. When the bmws had dct warranty claims, if it was more than replace oil gaskets/pans, the entire thing was replaced. im the 1st person to have a built getrag 7spd dct, and it took dodson 3+years to get it back to me. the gtr dct is what, $20k to build to handle high hp/tq/rpms? and thats only because of company's specific to building them + demand. I think we will luck out on that one if mustang and zr1s are getting a basically equal unit, so the aftermarket will find a way, but in no way could that be cheaper than 6spd warranty claims
Well of course, a manual transmission really has no place, other than in the "fun" car segment, as well as some bare bottom of the line economy class vehicles, as far as passenger vehicles go.
I am going to say it has many parts that go into that equation.
