Vibration between 50 & 70 mph

[speedfrk]

My 2016 GT auto with 3.15 gear has the vibration. I traded my 2015 GT PP car in on it. The 2015 was vib free. This one had it from the time I drove it off the lot. Had to hit 65mph to really feel it. It's at the dealer now. They have been swapping tires, balancing etc for two days. The don't have the NVH tool that Fords Tech line told them to use. So they have been wasting time so far. Supposedly ordered new tool today, but don't expect it here till the new year.

Got a new car that I just got that vibrates terribly. Oh what luck.

The problem is that even if they get the equipment, someone needs to know how to use it. I would insist on a Ford field service engineer. Even then there is no guarantee that they will make the right call on which part to replace.

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[Mustangster]

Having endured over 1100kms of vibration, I visited the dealership today to discuss the issues. My first hurdle was to convince the technician that a vibration did exist and it was not my imagination. So I drove around with the technician in the car and demonstrated how and when the vibration occurred. He did admit that a vibration occurred around 60mph and then spent the next 3 hours testing the car under different conditions while taking readings using a vibration analyzer tool (EVA???). Apparently he has gathered sufficient data to review and come with a diagnosis report and hopefully a suitable remedial plan (probably with some expert help from Ford). I will be called in again for the fix within the next few days. Until such time the car will remain with me. Will keep you all posted.

 

[Toothless]

Sadly another piss poor update. Waiting for the vibration tool to arrive, they sent me home with my car, instead of leaving in the shop two weeks. That was Dec 23rd. Been raining and busy with Christmas so car stayed inside most of the time. I've driven it a few times to the store etc. The wife drives it today for the first time and to work for half a day. Says she doesn't feel much of a vibration in the car on the way to work, but noticed a loud clunking noise. On the way home, same noise, but car is vibrating. So I had to take my kids somewhere, so I drove the car. When parking I noticed a loud clunk. When I was leaving I heard it again when applying power and then brake. Did it a few times in parking lot. Felt like something had messed up with the front suspension. So I drove it towards home, and heard it anytime I put on the brakes. The steering wheel started to have a shimmy to it that wasn't there before. Then the car started shaking a lot more. Put on brakes, and it smoothed out. Then ran smoother again. Then would start again, but getting really bad. I thought well what ever is vibrating is getting bad. So I slowed down. It almost feel like a tire was out of balance or wheel loose. So crept the last 1/2 miles home, pulled it in the garage. I checked the 6 oclock lug nut on right front wheel, and I could move it with my fingers. Checked the others, and could move all with fingers except for 12 o'clock lug. It was in a bind, but just as loose. The wheel was tilted out at the top keeping it from being able to be turned by fingers. Just curious, so I checked the left front and it was the same way. BOTH front wheels about to fall off. And my wife could have wrecked. I was pissed. And now my $550 wheels have been loose and oblonged the holes to some extent, I'm sure.

I'm glad no one got hurt. It could have been worse. Last thing the Ford techs did was swap wheels with another new one on the lot. Then put my wheels back on, sort of.

The back ones seem tight. Called service manager to inform of him of what I found. They are concerned and sending a Tech over to my house to tighten the lugs. I told him I could do it, but for some reason, they wanted to do them. Not sure why. I am concerned about the wheels now and the lugs, now they have been exposed to bending forces and impact from a loosely mounted wheel.

And all I really wanted was a new car that didn't vibrate. Now this crap. Everything was ok, until Ford started working on it. Now my wheels are probably messed up, wheel may have been rubbing the strut, AND no resolution to the original problem. ..

 

[icarumba]

Sadly another piss poor update. Waiting for the vibration tool to arrive, they sent me home with my car, instead of leaving in the shop two weeks. That was Dec 23rd. Been raining and busy with Christmas so car stayed inside most of the time. I've driven it a few times to the store etc. The wife drives it today for the first time and to work for half a day. Says she doesn't feel much of a vibration in the car on the way to work, but noticed a loud clunking noise. On the way home, same noise, but car is vibrating. So I had to take my kids somewhere, so I drove the car. When parking I noticed a loud clunk. When I was leaving I heard it again when applying power and then brake. Did it a few times in parking lot. Felt like something had messed up with the front suspension. So I drove it towards home, and heard it anytime I put on the brakes. The steering wheel started to have a shimmy to it that wasn't there before. Then the car started shaking a lot more. Put on brakes, and it smoothed out. Then ran smoother again. Then would start again, but getting really bad. I thought well what ever is vibrating is getting bad. So I slowed down. It almost feel like a tire was out of balance or wheel loose. So crept the last 1/2 miles home, pulled it in the garage. I checked the 6 oclock lug nut on right front wheel, and I could move it with my fingers. Checked the others, and could move all with fingers except for 12 o'clock lug. It was in a bind, but just as loose. The wheel was tilted out at the top keeping it from being able to be turned by fingers. Just curious, so I checked the left front and it was the same way. BOTH front wheels about to fall off. And my wife could have wrecked. I was pissed. And now my $550 wheels have been loose and oblonged the holes to some extent, I'm sure.

I'm glad no one got hurt. It could have been worse. Last thing the Ford techs did was swap wheels with another new one on the lot. Then put my wheels back on, sort of.

The back ones seem tight. Called service manager to inform of him of what I found. They are concerned and sending a Tech over to my house to tighten the lugs. I told him I could do it, but for some reason, they wanted to do them. Not sure why. I am concerned about the wheels now and the lugs, now they have been exposed to bending forces and impact from a loosely mounted wheel.

And all I really wanted was a new car that didn't vibrate. Now this crap. Everything was ok, until Ford started working on it. Now my wheels are probably messed up, wheel may have been rubbing the strut, AND no resolution to the original problem. ..

Holeee crap...a new low for dealer incompetence! I would insist on having them replace everything that could have possibly been damaged or worn, AND give you a 100,000 mile Premium ESP for the risk they exposed you to. And definitely report it to Ford at: https://www.ford.com/help/contact/.

Stupidity needs to be painful; a simple apology won't cut it in this case. Good luck; l hope everything gets fixed to your satisfaction.

 

[speedfrk]

Sadly another piss poor update. Waiting for the vibration tool to arrive, they sent me home with my car, instead of leaving in the shop two weeks. That was Dec 23rd. Been raining and busy with Christmas so car stayed inside most of the time. I've driven it a few times to the store etc. The wife drives it today for the first time and to work for half a day. Says she doesn't feel much of a vibration in the car on the way to work, but noticed a loud clunking noise. On the way home, same noise, but car is vibrating. So I had to take my kids somewhere, so I drove the car. When parking I noticed a loud clunk. When I was leaving I heard it again when applying power and then brake. Did it a few times in parking lot. Felt like something had messed up with the front suspension. So I drove it towards home, and heard it anytime I put on the brakes. The steering wheel started to have a shimmy to it that wasn't there before. Then the car started shaking a lot more. Put on brakes, and it smoothed out. Then ran smoother again. Then would start again, but getting really bad. I thought well what ever is vibrating is getting bad. So I slowed down. It almost feel like a tire was out of balance or wheel loose. So crept the last 1/2 miles home, pulled it in the garage. I checked the 6 oclock lug nut on right front wheel, and I could move it with my fingers. Checked the others, and could move all with fingers except for 12 o'clock lug. It was in a bind, but just as loose. The wheel was tilted out at the top keeping it from being able to be turned by fingers. Just curious, so I checked the left front and it was the same way. BOTH front wheels about to fall off. And my wife could have wrecked. I was pissed. And now my $550 wheels have been loose and oblonged the holes to some extent, I'm sure.

I'm glad no one got hurt. It could have been worse. Last thing the Ford techs did was swap wheels with another new one on the lot. Then put my wheels back on, sort of.

The back ones seem tight. Called service manager to inform of him of what I found. They are concerned and sending a Tech over to my house to tighten the lugs. I told him I could do it, but for some reason, they wanted to do them. Not sure why. I am concerned about the wheels now and the lugs, now they have been exposed to bending forces and impact from a loosely mounted wheel.

And all I really wanted was a new car that didn't vibrate. Now this crap. Everything was ok, until Ford started working on it. Now my wheels are probably messed up, wheel may have been rubbing the strut, AND no resolution to the original problem. ..

I'd pretty much be demanding new wheels at this point... And finding a new dealer. If you are used to premium brand dealer service like I was, you will be deeply disappointed with a typical Ford dealer.

 

[Toothless]

Well front right wheels have visually oblonged holes. Left wheel might also. Tires where lightly rubbing struts. Nit bad, but you can see it. They destroyed the hub centric rings. And are blaming them for causing the wheels to come loose. I think they destroyed them when they swapped the stock wheels on. Because the rings stay on the car usually. They probably forced the stock wheels on and torqued them down with gun. That more than likely destroyed them. Just thought of that.

 

[Cobra Jet]

We might have just missed each other back then - I used to post a ton of stuff on BON and Corral and StangNet on this problem. You could probably still access the archives by me, Joe Lynch, etc., as well as all the ridiculous personal and political bickering that went on on the BON forum (LOL). Those were the days when I had time to do such things. Now, I just enjoy the car and need something fun to drive, and have no interest in modding it. It's really annoying that the car vibrates. Please see my post immediately preceding yours on this topic - I know a few things about the vibration problem. Let me know what you find out about your car.

Can you link your thread here about the issues? I too am a long time Corraler (since that site was initially conceived) and either I'm missing your tech or their Search feature for archived threads is screwed...

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[Mustangster]

Having endured over 1100kms of vibration, I visited the dealership today to discuss the issues. My first hurdle was to convince the technician that a vibration did exist and it was not my imagination. So I drove around with the technician in the car and demonstrated how and when the vibration occurred. He did admit that a vibration occurred around 60mph and then spent the next 3 hours testing the car under different conditions while taking readings using a vibration analyzer tool (EVA???). Apparently he has gathered sufficient data to review and come with a diagnosis report and hopefully a suitable remedial plan (probably with some expert help from Ford). I will be called in again for the fix within the next few days. Until such time the car will remain with me. Will keep you all posted.

Update:
Based on the results provided by the dealership, Ford believes the vibration is caused by faulty tire construction and have recommended replacement of all four tires as a first step. I hope it works. If not at least I will have a brand new set of tires.

 

[DrDing.Muscle]

Update:
Based on the results provided by the dealership, Ford believes the vibration is caused by faulty tire construction and have recommended replacement of all four tires as a first step. I hope it works. If not at least I will have a brand new set of tires.

That is always the first thing they do and it is never the problem. It is something with the driveline and ford refuses to acknowledge there is a problem.

 

[Toothless]

The frequency of the vibration (shown in units of G's) should point then in the right area. At 60 mph, the frequency of rotation of a 27" tire is 39.17 hz. With a 3.15 gear ratio the frequency of the driveshaft is 3.15 x 39.17 hz. The vibration tool should show the frequency and magnitude in G's of the problem in question. Diagnosing this should be very easy with the right tool.

Swapping to factory tires didn't change mine one bit. I'm keeping factory wheels on until they solve the issue. I've had this car about a month now, and have driven 200 miles since getting it home. Don't feel like driving it with the Vibration. My dealer still hasn't gotten the service tool yet. Been wait for 3 weeks. I think they should pay my 1st months payment since it's new and not worth driving. Very dissatisfied with Ford at this point.

 

[DrDing.Muscle]

The frequency of the vibration (shown in units of G's) should point then in the right area. At 60 mph, the frequency of rotation of a 27" tire is 39.17 hz. With a 3.15 gear ratio the frequency of the driveshaft is 3.15 x 39.17 hz. The vibration tool should show the frequency and magnitude in G's of the problem in question. Diagnosing this should be very easy with the right tool.

Swapping to factory tires didn't change mine one bit. I'm keeping factory wheels on until they solve the issue. I've had this car about a month now, and have driven 200 miles since getting it home. Don't feel like driving it with the Vibration. My dealer still hasn't gotten the service tool yet. Been wait for 3 weeks. I think they should pay my 1st months payment since it's new and not worth driving. Very dissatisfied with Ford at this point.

It's only going to get worse man. Ford doesn't care about its customers at all. We have been going through this on my wife's car since July and still no resolution. Ford is dragging their feet every step of the way.

 

[Ayabe]

If you are used to premium brand dealer service like I was, you will be deeply disappointed with a typical Ford dealer.

This cannot be over-emphasized, you will be shocked, I sure as hell was.

 

[Cobra Jet]

This should be a sticky so that it remains at the top of the forum until Ford rectifies the issue and issues a TSB.

I myself just purchased a brand new 16 EcoBoost Premium and have an appointment this coming Tuesday at a local Ford Dealer for the same issue. I only have 900 miles on my vehicle!

It's a definitive driveline vibration that occurs as soon as the vehicle approaches 55mph and gets worse as getting to 60mph+, to the point the vibes are felt through out the vehicle (not in steering).

It's not tired related.

It's not brake related.

It's not steering related.

The issue is definitively related to the driveshaft and/or rear components.

I mean as soon as my vehicle approaches 60mph the vibe is ridiculous and can be felt through the seats with a definitive resonating "hum" as the vibe gets worse.

I've read through this entire thread and it's really ignorant that with as many vehicles being affected Ford has not addressed this issue with any known TSB's - more so that MANY of the owners in this thread alone have gone to a Ford Service Department AND each such instance has been logged in Ford's systems!!

Have there been any OASIS updates regarding this problem - anyone know?

I also reached out to "Rachel" on here who is listed as being a Ford Service M6G member and sent her an IM today to reference this thread.

I and others shouldn't be driving brand new vehicles that have driveline vibrations with minimal accrued miles (or in some instances, having the issue right off the lot after a purchase).

If it's a manufacturing issue that needs to be addressed - such as why are driveshafts not being installed at their "index" points on the assembly line - then that needs to be corrected so the cars aren't leaving without proper driveshaft balancing.

If it's due to the rear gears, half shafts or flange being the issue - then again it's a manufacturing issue that needs to be looked into and resolved to avoid the issue in the first place.

I mean we're not talking a handful of cars here - the thread alone has many affected vehicles!

 

[69mach1-395]

This should be a sticky so that it remains at the top of the forum until Ford rectifies the issue and issues a TSB...

I mean we're not talking a handful of cars here - the thread alone has many affected vehicles!

How many?
What percent? That's what the bean counters care about, unfortunately.
I would be pissed also if my brand new car did this.

 

[Cobra Jet]

How many?
What percent? That's what the bean counters care about, unfortunately.
I would be pissed also if my brand new car did this.

The bigger question should be - how many owners are affected but are not Internet savvy or are not members of any forum to voice their concerns?

I mean this thread alone speaks volumes for the concern, more so the documented concerns by owners who have already been to a local Ford Service Department.

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