Thinking about Switching to a Whipple. Thoughts?

[5.0_Lojos]

If you're staying on pump gas, just pulley down, if you run into issues on the top end, add a release valve. (i.e. set it up to run 15 psi, but limit it to 12, that way it'll give you more sauce down low).

The reality is that unless you're lugging the car, just about any blower is going to provide more torque than the car can handle in the first couple of gears. The top gears don't provide enough multiplication to overwhelm the traction and the middle gears, if you're in proper rpm range will give you all the sauce you need.

The PD system has the advantage of better cooling with an air-water-air setup, but also is slightly less efficient. The PD system is going to be significantly heavier on the front end. Not only is the blower heavier, the extra fluids add to the weight.

At pump gas power levels you can go with just about any system and have fun and be happy.

The ONLY scenario where a PD blower will be different is at low(er) RPM in mid range gears.

So if you're the type of person that likes to mash the go pedal vs change gears, then PD is something to consider, but A) Lugging the motor isn't the healthiest thing in the world and B) Some people like the pedestrian nature of a turbo or centri down low and it only makes steam once you put your foot to it and get to proper gear/rpm.

My car made stupid, asinine levels of torque and because I like to run 30 series performance tires on the street, I literally had to tell the tuner to back it down, otherwise the car was on roller skates at anything less than 90 mph. Spinnin' ain't winnin.

Both blower systems will make more torque than a typical mustang chassis/tire setup can handle on the street. You just have to set them up properly. You can do it without changing the entire blower setup.

Grab the lowest pulley you can run without belt slip and put a valve on it to limit it to 12 lbs and be done with it.

Where can I find more info on this on how its done? (Re: put a valve on it to limit it to 12 lbs and be done with it.)

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[5.0_Lojos]

His P1-SC is not the same as your P1-X. Nothing wrong with the -sc at all, but IMO if he had started with a P1-X he’d never have contemplated this swap in the first place

I purchased the car with this setup. Maybe a head unit exchange with PC should be considered?

 

[Angrey]

Call Procharger and see if they have an upgrade/swap option and how much it is. If they don't and the cost of the head unit isn't sensible, again, that blower will make more sauce than the motor will safely handle on pump gasoline.

You'll need to link up with a shop/tuner that has a dyno and simply keep pulleying down until you make more steam up top than the fuel will safely allow or run into belt slip. You can keep pulleying down but you'll need to install a control valve to cap it at say 12 psi.

You can run an F1 on that car and make 12 PSI (at whatever redline you want) you'll just have to bleed off the excess. That's not the most efficient way, but if you want to make more flow down low, just run a smaller pulley and the boost profile will come in earlier.

Also keep in mind that on pump gasoline, it's not like you're going to be able to create massive amounts of sauce down low anyway (on any blower/turbo setup) because the fuel is knock sensitive.

 

[5.0_Lojos]

His P1-SC is not the same as your P1-X. Nothing wrong with the -sc at all, but IMO if he had started with a P1-X he’d never have contemplated this swap in the first place

I think problem solved. Just got off the phone with procharger and they suggested the D1sc unit (sending mone in to get it uograded cost about $1,600) according to them this will give me the down to mid range power I am looking for. They also stated that anything ending in a P1X (or X) is more for high rpm rev..

 

[robvas]

A wastegate isn't going to make a centri feel like a whipple. And it doesn't make sense to get a bigger blower to stay on pump gas.

if you want the whipple go for it and hopefully you can sell the Procharger setup to recover 5k from it

it might not actually be any faster in the 1/4 but it will have power everywhere. Good luck with traction in 1st and 2nd!

 

[MKL_DS]

I think problem solved. Just got off the phone with procharger and they suggested the D1sc unit (sending mone in to get it uograded cost about $1,600) according to them this will give me the down to mid range power I am looking for. They also stated that anything ending in a P1X (or X) is more for high rpm rev..

This should work really well for you IMO.

 

[SolarFlare]

I’m sorry. SC is outdated in my opinion. X is where it’s at for coyotes. Pulley down, it’s less than $200 for pulley and belt.

 

[5.0_Lojos]

I’m sorry. SC is outdated in my opinion. X is where it’s at for coyotes. Pulley down, it’s less than $200 for pulley and belt.

That's my actual thought my man especially that I don't beat on the car and hit the redline if ever. Think im going this route.

 

[Unas2k5]

You’d probably end up being slower due to loss in traction. I don’t think spinning out is fun I want as much traction as possible in 1st and 2nd gear.

 

[SolarFlare]

Id let you get ride in mine but being e85 isn’t in the plans it’d be a bit unfair of a comparison

 

[5.0_Lojos]

Id let you get ride in mine but being e85 isn’t in the plans it’d be a bit unfair of a comparison

True! and the passenger always gets the brunt of it all

 

[80FoxCoupe]

I think problem solved. Just got off the phone with procharger and they suggested the D1sc unit (sending mone in to get it uograded cost about $1,600) according to them this will give me the down to mid range power I am looking for. They also stated that anything ending in a P1X (or X) is more for high rpm rev..

What pulley on the p1sc now?

 

[5.0_Lojos]

What pulley on the p1sc now?

4.63 from the stock 4.74 (A minimal difference)

 

[80FoxCoupe]

4.63 from the stock 4.74 (A minimal difference)

Why spend all this money when you are not using half of the blower you already have? I've been 9.01 at 150 with a stg2 p1sc.

 

[5.0_Lojos]

Why spend all this money when you are not using half of the blower you already have? I've been 9.01 at 150 with a stg2 p1sc.

Dont get me wrong I hit it hard here and there but its not a normal thing for me. I just finally broke in my RXT Mcleod which now it grips like hell (I know, careful with the Trans, whole other issue )

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