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Paint has suffered ever since car manufacturers switched from oil-based paint to water-borne paint. But water-borne is much better for the environment. Think VOC(volatile organic compounds).

The problem with this new paint method is over time, sunlight can pass through the clear coat and degrade the bond between the clear coat and the color coat, causing the clear coat to de-laminate. This is frequently seen on the roofs of cars, even after only a few years. Auto manufacturers are also using thinner paint because of what I mentioned above.

Sometimes water-borne paints don’t adhere properly to the electrostatically applied primer, so peeling of large areas can occur.

Auto manufacturers and body repair shops are restricted in what materials they can legally use to paint a consumer’s car with. This also all depends on what state you live(like everything else right? HA! ex. tint darkness). However oil-based paints are still used to paint some industrial equipment, maybe aircraft and boats as well.

It may still be possible to use a 1-part oil-based paint(for durability reasons) but you'd have to find a painter in a less-regulated state, who is set up for painting industrial equipment, and have them paint your vehicle.
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I got my worst rock chip on my hood the 2nd day of ownership when I had 75 miles on the car, I have 11500 now and I am still a bit mad.

I guess the bright side is it makes further damage feel less bad. I also decided not to get PPF since I already had a huge chip so it kind of saved me like 2k$
 
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6200 miles and paint is still perfect. Only one tiny ding on the windshield. I also avoid trucks and Bubbas pulling trailers.
 

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So, I'll calculate that your Cobra has been driven 5,600 miles a year. That's very low miles, suggesting it's not daily driven.

How many miles on the 2018?

And yes, the rest of the car tells the story of the conditions the car has been driven in. If your windshield looks brand-new, and your paint is bad, then something is wrong with the paint.
The 2018 now has 27k on it. (my prior 2016 had over 35k on it with similar chip damages).

The Cobra was daily driven from 94 until 2007 at which point it was moved from daily driver to Collector Car insured status. It’s still driven, but only when it’s nice out (ie: no longer sees any rain or harsh weather elements such as snow etc).

So if we want to go that route - when the Cobra was “retired” from 24/7/365 use, that is still 13 years of daily driving in every type of environment and road condition and it already had in excess of 138k on it...

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The bigger picture:
25 years vs only less than 2 years and the newer vehicle has more chip damage in its paint than its predecessor.


There’s just no reason why the S550 paint quality can’t be better - we’re not talking about a sub-par $20k vehicle; many S550 owners are paying $30k+ for their new rides.... AND even on the higher end of the spectrum (GT350’s) the paint quality is the same and still sucks....

Sure, there’s paint protectant films - but that’s additional cost for many folks. I personally would rather have the bare brilliance of the painted body sparkling in the sunlight than see dull film and edges of film lines in areas that shouldn’t need to be “Saran Wrapped” due to piss poor paint quality off the assembly line.
 

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i heard about the mustang factory paint before i had purchased so that is why i had the entire front end clear wrapped. so far it is working.
 

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I'll go with the idea that, if you have windshield damage, even small chips & stuff, it's not the paint.
There's something wrong with the windshields on these cars too. I have owned 3 other cars over the course of 12 years and have never cracked or even majorly chipped a windshield. I have had this car 3 years and have replaced the windshield 3 times from large cracks spanning the entire glass.
 

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these cars have the weakest windshields I have ever seen
 

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I have a couple. And one REALLY bad one that's basically down to the metal. I got a paint kit coming so I'm going to touch them up as good as I can
 

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here I thought I was crazy. I had 2 like the first week.
 

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My Mustang is a 2015, but its rarely driven and only has about 4,500 miles. I just had the front end done with PPF to keep it from getting even more chipped. I think all newer cars suffer from the same shitty, thin, and easily chipped paint. My 17 Scat Pack Charger looked horrible after only 3,000 miles. My wifes 17 Explorer Sport looks like shit with about 26k miles. The front end has so many chips it'd be impossible to count them all. Plus, the leading edge of the hood is starting to bubble and crack from the aluminum corrosion. I give up! lol
 

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Look under the front fender lip just above the headlight lens. A lot of folks have paint drips on the edge that no one sees until they look for it.
 

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Who here has used Dr. Colorchip or the Motorcraft Touch Up Pen? Dr. Colorchip seems to be more popular here, why is that? The Motorcraft pen is half the price, does it not work as well?
I use the Motorcraft touch up paint with no issues, but I didn't use the brush/pen. I put drops of the paint in a precision painting pen and I can't tell where my 2 chips were unless I am looking hard for it.
 
 








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