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[Teej]

On a small track where you cant get to top speed, it wouldn't matter. However the track I frequent, it does matter. I agree, it is not the end of the world, but the whole concept of limiting top speed for the sake of equality among the various models of the 500 (or some legal teams development input) leaves me scratching my head. I would buy the track CF package even if it was slower.

Back to why top speed matters (IMHO)…. The 500 will have much greater acceleration and it could get to top speed faster. If you had the real estate (longer stretches), you could accelerate to a faster top speed and reduce lap times. The faster you go and the quicker you get there takes the long stretch variable out of the lap time equation. The inside course (or road course) portion of driving would have to rely on the maneuvering and handling charicteristics to bring the lap times down. The two together (rapid acceleration to top end speed, and a highly maneuverable road course car) could significantly reduce lap times overall.

So again, on fast flat out tracks like VIR, Daytona, and Nürburgring, top end speed is definitely part of the equation. I could live with 180 though. If/when I get this car, I will report back with my observations.

I guess what I meant for top speed being limited, is it would only matter if you are actually hitting that top speed. If you can never get to the top speed, then it wouldn't matter as much. Even then, it would depend how the top speed is limited, whether it is drag, gearing or a limiter as that would affect how fast you can get there as well.

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[Tomster]

I guess what I meant for top speed being limited, is it would only matter if you are actually hitting that top speed. If you can never get to the top speed, then it wouldn't matter as much. Even then, it would depend how the top speed is limited, whether it is drag, gearing or a limiter as that would affect how fast you can get there as well.

At the larger faster tracks, yes you can. On the smaller tracks, no you cant. Again, not the end of the world.

 

[V00D00]

Yeah ok.
It’s not that easy. We know what to look for and we’re smarter than you.

No youre not

Not quite that simple.

yes it is

 

[roygriffin2020]

Hey, I know that guy driving! (No it's not me)

But realistically, why would top speed matter? The only time I could see top speed being an issue is if you are actually hitting it on a track, and other than Nurburgring, are there that many tracks you can get up to that speed? I know the old GT500 had the 200 top speed and the Charger hellcat had the 200 top speed, but also from what I read, I feel like these are more gimmicky to just be able to say we could do it. I know some people have changed out the rear gears on the hellcat because they are just too long and were used to be able to get that 200 top speed. But, that also could just be a persons personal preference. And unless you are doing 1/2 mile or mile events, you probably don't need much more than 180.

If I remember right, the 6th gear Tremec in the ZLE is different then the regular ZL1 making it not have a top end that is as high.

 

[9secondko]

Who CARES!

It’s a matter of excellence and it matters. Some of us can’t help but notice details in a big way. If it’s of no consequence to you, good for you. But for many of us, these things are glaring.

 

[Dominator961]

No youre not

yes it is

Oh really?
You honestly believe that I couldn’t tell if you put your car back to stock?

 

[Dominator961]

It’s a matter of excellence and it matters. Some of us can’t help but notice details in a big way. If it’s of no consequence to you, good for you. But for many of us, these things are glaring.

So you really believe Ford put the “wrong” snake emblem on the car and that they messed up?

You people kill me.

It all comes down to this.
You just need something to complain about.

 

[V00D00]

Oh really?
You honestly believe that I couldn’t tell if you put your car back to stock?

2 fold question, but generally no. If i modify it properly you wont be able to tell; if i bring you a stock car and it has no verifiable modifications, you wont win denying a warranty claim.

 

[Dominator961]

2 fold question, but generally no. If i modify it properly you wont be able to tell; if i bring you a stock car and it has no verifiable modifications, you wont win denying a warranty claim.

Let’s just say for example you installed headers or a intake manifold and put it back to stock and brought it back in for warranty work.
I could most certainly tell. It’s not hard to see when it’s been worked on. Trust me.

 

[roygriffin2020]

Let’s just say for example you installed headers or a intake manifold and put it back to stock and brought it back in for warranty work.
I could most certainly tell. It’s not hard to see when it’s been worked on. Trust me.

I agree. You will be able to see dirt moved off of bolts and nuts. Greasy hand marks, etc. Just changing an air filter someone could tell.

 

[V00D00]

Let’s just say for example you installed headers or a intake manifold and put it back to stock and brought it back in for warranty work.
I could most certainly tell. It’s not hard to see when it’s been worked on. Trust me.

I agree. You will be able to see dirt moved off of bolts and nuts. Greasy hand marks, etc. Just changing an air filter someone could tell.

oh, so having a cleaned car voids warranties huh? if your a dealership/your dealer tries to pull that, your gonna look stupid in fords and the publics eyes

 

[Dominator961]

oh, so having a cleaned car voids warranties huh? if your a dealership/your dealer tries to pull that, your gonna look stupid in fords and the publics eyes

Nobody said anything about a clean car. But if you’re that ignorant to think that a professional mechanic that works on vehicles everyday can’t tell when a cars been worked on you are sadly mistaken. Even a brand new car tells a story.

 

[roygriffin2020]

It seems that all of the tech added to make the faster car yet, and 50 years later to be exact it is still not faster then the 1969 Plymouth Super Bird and Dodge Daytona.

 

[V00D00]

Nobody said anything about a clean car. But if you’re that ignorant to think that a professional mechanic that works on vehicles everyday can’t tell when a cars been worked on you are sadly mistaken. Even a brand new car tells a story.

sorry sir, you warranty claim is denied because these bolts here look like they were tightened down..

yea, goodluck with that

 

[Dominator961]

sorry sir, you warranty claim is denied because these bolts here look like they were tightened down..

yea, goodluck with that

Dude, youre ignorant.
You most certainly can tell when someone has had something apart. And yes, if it’s been apart and put back together it shows.

You’re not a bright as you think you are.
Not to mention, nearly every single mod on a modern car needs a tune. So don’t tell me we can’t find it or tell when it’s been tampered.

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