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I bet it the Flat ass rear end that cause camaro the slow sales
It's been covered extensively: still a visibility disaster, overall styling too similar to last gen (which was hate or love it already), rear end is terrible and doesn't belong on a performance car, and several thousand more expensive than its direct competitor at all trim levels without tangible benefits to most customers.
 

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I had none. Paired flawlessly, voice-activation was problem free for me. Again, what kinds of issues are you speaking to? However, I do seem to live a charmed life!
I hardly had any issues at all with Sync in my 2011. The same can be said for my '16. I have some issues with the back up camera staying on even when out of reverse that's happened twice, and my Bluetooth randomly dropping maybe once a month. Bugs are expected to happen, so I don't see where it's that bad. Try using uConnect in the Wranglers and You'll fall in love with Sync lol.
 

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It's been covered a lot on Camaro6 as to why the sales are slow. You have a few flapping idiots insisting this was all according to plans..uh huh. It's gotten to the point that a great deal of people are just screaming to not talk about sales.

Funny how when the Camaro was dominant in sales from 2010-2014 (the 2009-2014 MY) they couldn't get enough of the Camaro sales news and how, despite the Mustang being measurably better in most respects, "it doesn't matter if your car is being beaten in sales"

Now the shoe is on the other foot, and they don't want to eat their crow pie.
 

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I hardly had any issues at all with Sync in my 2011. The same can be said for my '16. I have some issues with the back up camera staying on even when out of reverse that's happened twice, and my Bluetooth randomly dropping maybe once a month. Bugs are expected to happen, so I don't see where it's that bad. Try using uConnect in the Wranglers and You'll fall in love with Sync lol.
Odd...i hear some "reviewers" saying Uconnect is the best of the infotainment lot.

My 2011 MFT was great till the last update to fix an Apple BT issue. Now the media player is constantly indexing the SD card so i can never just say "Shuffle artist King Diamond" without hearing "Sync is currently downloading media information...blah blah blah"
 

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I hardly had any issues at all with Sync in my 2011. The same can be said for my '16. I have some issues with the back up camera staying on even when out of reverse that's happened twice, and my Bluetooth randomly dropping maybe once a month. Bugs are expected to happen, so I don't see where it's that bad. Try using uConnect in the Wranglers and You'll fall in love with Sync lol.
I think everyone's definition of "issues" is different as well. Not liking it is often overlayed as an "issue". Slow response as well, or lack of knowledge in how to control. For me it is not the perfect solution, but it works well and I have had no issues with crashing or bad behavior on either of our cars, a 2013 Fusion and my 'Stang. I personally prefer actual buttons as I rarely have to look away from the road (or only very quickly). To their credit, I have not delved to deeply into the voice control which is where I think it was intended to be used. Only use voice controls for placing calls. I think this is a totally overblown issue, it needs to be functional but does not need to be full bells and whistles.

For the total sales, I think it is clear that the Mustang has hit the sweet spot of performance, usability/practicality, price and looks. In order to vastly improve one metric you have to sacrifice on another (performance usually trades off practicality and price). This is what GM did with some risk, go for total performance out of the box (which they got) but the market is not pleased with the tradeoffs for the general public (interior space and usability, trunk space and ride quality). Looks are subjective (my view is the Mustang is much more attractive, but others may disagree).
 

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Odd...i hear some "reviewers" saying Uconnect is the best of the infotainment lot.

My 2011 MFT was great till the last update to fix an Apple BT issue. Now the media player is constantly indexing the SD card so i can never just say "Shuffle artist King Diamond" without hearing "Sync is currently downloading media information...blah blah blah"
uConnect in other Chrysler models are different than what is offered in the Wrangler, so I can't speak for those. The uConnect option in the Wrangler is literally the worst infotainment I've ever used or seen. I had a 2012 Sahara and I thought it was just mine that had all the issues I had, but the same were present in my 2015 Rubicon when I bought it lol.
 

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I'm loving the argument how the S197 and S550 look so similar they cannot tell the difference. I mean, seriously...
 

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I'm loving the argument how the S197 and S550 look so similar they cannot tell the difference. I mean, seriously...
Now that's funny! :lol:
 

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I'm loving the argument how the S197 and S550 look so similar they cannot tell the difference. I mean, seriously...
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yeah...they look like identical twins. What numb nuts they are.
 

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Had to check and see if you was correct. :lol:
You guys must really be getting under hotlaps skin. He's over there pulling out all the stops on the "evolutionary" styling of the 6thGen Camaro by suggesting the Mustang has retained relatively the same styling since 1968. Yeah, those seventies and eighties Mustangs sure resembled the Gen1 cars. I think he's regretting his purchase of his 6thGen and simply trying to anything and everything he can to justify his action.
 

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You guys must really be getting under hotlaps skin. He's over there pulling out all the stops on the "evolutionary" styling of the 6thGen Camaro by suggesting the Mustang has retained relatively the same styling since 1968. Yeah, those seventies and eighties Mustangs sure resembled the Gen1 cars. I think he's regretting his purchase of his 6thGen and simply trying to anything and everything he can to justify his action.
5g and 6g camaro look similar to 64' mustang that is why he is pissed. He throught he brought original camaro and didnt know that 1gen camaro look similar to the 64' mustang.

Best looking camaro are the 4th gen, and best looking mustang was 67' fastback.
 

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You guys must really be getting under hotlaps skin. He's over there pulling out all the stops on the "evolutionary" styling of the 6thGen Camaro by suggesting the Mustang has retained relatively the same styling since 1968. Yeah, those seventies and eighties Mustangs sure resembled the Gen1 cars. I think he's regretting his purchase of his 6thGen and simply trying to anything and everything he can to justify his action.
I have looked over some of his post and he just seems to be a random mustang hating jackass!
 

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5g and 6g camaro look similar to 64' mustang that is why he is pissed. He throught he brought original camaro and didnt know that 1gen camaro look similar to the 64' mustang.

Best looking camaro are the 4th gen, and best looking mustang was 67' fastback.
The 1stGen Camaro was a blatant ripoff off the 1stGen Mustang. GM didn't even deny it at the time. I have to disagree on the 4thGen Camaro as the best looking. I have no love for the styling at all.
 

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I have looked over some of his post and he just seems to be a random mustang hating jackass!
He really is. He just cannot be content talking up the Camaro, he has to find a way to put a dig in at the Mustang in almost every post he makes. He strikes me as an individual who just handle the fact that, despite whatever level of performance GM gives the Camaro, the model will ALWAYS be the also-ran pony car.
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