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It's not the hate for electric cars, it is the hate that they are being forced on us.
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I think teslas are better cars than a majority of what people are driving.
I know we’re veering off topic again, but in what way do you mean they are better? Because the build quality of the one’s I’ve seen and driven are absolute dog sh*t
 

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I know we’re veering off topic again, but in what way do you mean they are better? Because the build quality of the one’s I’ve seen and driven are absolute dog sh*t
Early years definitely had issues and there are still issues.

The 2018 Model 3 had some minor panel gap issues. The (I think) 2023 model y doesn't have any build quality issues that I have noticed.

There are design choices I don't like. I don't like how they are pushing minimalist design and removing physical buttons. My biggest complaint is actually the autopilot software and how restrictive the tesla insurance is.

Better is subjective but I would say I think teslas are a better value, perform better, and probably are more reliable. If you google tesla reliability its all over the place but from personal experience they have been our families most reliable vehicles. We have 50k miles on our model y in about a year and a half and maybe had one minor issue? The model 3 we put about 30k on in 2 years and the only problem I remember is a coolant hose leaking.

Even if you don't agree that they are better I think the hate is way over the top. You can not like the cars, but they are objectively not terrible cars.
 

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Early years definitely had issues and there are still issues.

The 2018 Model 3 had some minor panel gap issues. The (I think) 2023 model y doesn't have any build quality issues that I have noticed.

There are design choices I don't like. I don't like how they are pushing minimalist design and removing physical buttons. My biggest complaint is actually the autopilot software and how restrictive the tesla insurance is.

Better is subjective but I would say I think teslas are a better value, perform better, and probably are more reliable. If you google tesla reliability its all over the place but from personal experience they have been our families most reliable vehicles. We have 50k miles on our model y in about a year and a half and maybe had one minor issue? The model 3 we put about 30k on in 2 years and the only problem I remember is a coolant hose leaking.

Even if you don't agree that they are better I think the hate is way over the top. You can not like the cars, but they are objectively not terrible cars.
Fair enough and agreed on the loss of physical buttons. I like buttons and dials.

My disdain for Tesla is primarily those that own them. There are a few people in my neighborhood that have Teslas (one guy has multiple) and they think they’re the hottest sh*t to walk the Earth. And they drive like it too. I also think their designs are boring. They all look the same save for the dumpster on 4 wheels. No creativity there at all IMO.

There’s a guy who lives around the corner that has a Rivian and his attitude is a complete 180 from the Tesla guys in the neighborhood. Not saying every Tesla owner is that way but there’s quite a few here.
 

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Fair enough and agreed on the loss of physical buttons. I like buttons and dials.

My disdain for Tesla is primarily those that own them. There are a few people in my neighborhood that have Teslas (one guy has multiple) and they think they’re the hottest sh*t to walk the Earth. And they drive like it too. I also think their designs are boring. They all look the same save for the dumpster on 4 wheels. No creativity there at all IMO.

There’s a guy who lives around the corner that has a Rivian and his attitude is a complete 180 from the Tesla guys in the neighborhood. Not saying every Tesla owner is that way but there’s quite a few here.
Yes definitely lots of tesla owners that are full of their car. And I agree they do all look boring when you see 15 a day.

I think Teslas are a solid daily driver car. Not slow, electricity is way cheaper than gas, good safety, good technology. I would definitely own a model s plaid as a daily driver if I could (I would turn the mustang full racecar haha).

Since I get to drive the Tesla so much I think the biggest problem is other drivers. People ride my ass, cut me off, don't let me in, go into the shoulder to pass me when Im stuck in stop and go traffic, the list goes on. I have almost 0 issues when I drive my mustang. Part of that problem is the tesla insurance makes me give good distance between me and the car in front so people constantly go around me thinking I'm holding them up when in reality I'm just not riding the ass of the person in front of me.

I did have a tesla fully cut me off the other day while I was driving and almost side-swiped me when I flew past him once he was stuck behind a car.
 

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Teslas are very common here and no one thinks they're hot shit driving them, not anymore at least. Most of the drivers are in the left lane going 65mph.. though you will get the occasional aggressive one.
 

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The BD sells for $10,700 USD in China and $25k in South America. If BD’s were exported to the States in large numbers
it wouldn't be allowed because it doesn't comply with US regs. When the car is fitted to US Specs the price sky-rockets into domestic pricing territory. The tariff is just political masturbation.

Yes we definitely need to have a convo about US "standards" and why they are making vehicle cost astronomical vs say what you pay in Brazil or Chile. Also the $1000 headlamp nonsense needs to stop right damn now.
 
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it wouldn't be allowed because it doesn't comply with US regs. When the car is fitted to US Specs the price sky-rockets into domestic pricing territory. The tariff is just political masturbation.

Yes we definitely need to have a convo about US "standards" and why they are making vehicle cost astronomical vs say what you pay in Brazil or Chile. Also the $1000 headlamp nonsense needs to stop right damn now.
$1000 headlights you say?
 

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I've been waiting for a Tesla to pick on me.
 

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I've been waiting for a Tesla to pick on me.
Happened to me a week ago. He tried to make me run him from a stop. Then when I didn't respond he tried to run me from a roll onto the freeway. I declined again.
 

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The BYDs sold in China are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government. They wouldn’t be that cheap otherwise.
The main concern I think people should have with any actual Chinese EV is the quality control and poor design. There are lots and lots of YouTube/Tiktok videos of Chinese EVs turning into giant electric fireballs. For this reason alone, they should never ever be imported.

My intense dislike of EVs is not the actual EV. It’s that MFGs are using them are data gathering devices. They record and spy on everything and it all ends up back on company servers. If I put my tinfoil hat on, I have always been of the opinion that the argument to save the environment is just what they use to drive adoption and the reality is that EVs are really more like drones. It’s all about data, money and control. There is of course, more and more of this in all vehicles. It is increasingly no longer a place of privacy or autonomy.
 
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I think Teslas are a solid daily driver car. Not slow, electricity is way cheaper than gas, good safety, good technology. I would definitely own a model s plaid as a daily driver if I could (I would turn the mustang full racecar haha).
They are current state of the art. I don't hate them, but my opinion is they don't measure up to ICE vehicles for any purpose when all factors are considered. Hopefully some day improvements will be made, but until then I will stick with the more practical choice.
 

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Thank goodness I live in the rural south. Whilst driving my plush isolated twisty roads without potholes the only traffic I see is the occasional local farmer on his tractor; all the while never worrying about passing smog. It's rough out here, but somebody has to do it. Lets see, am I going to drive the M1 or the GT today? Man.... tough. I hope the farmers aren't out and about :)
 

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They will not all beat us! I played with a P85D last week getting on the highway and he was REALLY surprised that I walked him. I think a P100D and up would walk us(stock).
I walk these clowns regularly from a 50+ roll in my 22gt premium with 3.55s and active exhaust. Of course exhaust in track mode 🙄
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