GT performance package

[luc]

Oh yeah, much better to have a car understeer before oversteer. Just saying the car handles well imo.

I have to say that I’m pretty impressed how little the mustang pp need to be a great track car

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[Zinc03svt]

I have to say that I’m pretty impressed how little the mustang pp need to be a great track car

I bet just swapping the tires to pilot sport cup 2’s would make a big difference. Ford Track shocks are popular and reasonable upgrades too. I would like to get out to Hallett Motor Racing Circuit this year. Where are you running your car?

 

[shogun32]

The brakes and torsen will set you back $4k alone not including install

exactly what shiester do you frequent? The Diff assembly is barely $1000 (https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-pe...gears-v6-ecoboost-gt-2015-2020/p/M400188355A/) and add another net of $500 for the Torsen. The brakes are $1300'ish.

Labor to install is a long way below a grand. If I had the shop install the PP radiator I'd still have more than enough money left over from the 4k pot to buy+install Steeda/BMR parts which are actually useful unlike the Ford stuff.

 

[WildHorse]

Oh yeah, much better to have a car understeer before oversteer

Oversteer isn't a problem in most cases, unless it's snap oversteer. And that almost always comes from overcorrection.

 

[Ghost50]

This just becomes the case of people defending what they purchased. There are no absolutes on what is best for each individual. You cannot take every part difference on a pp1 and buy them plus installation anywhere close to buying a discounted/rebated car up front. Is a pp1 or pp2 perfect? No, but it was probably the best 34k I have spent bang for the buck plus the E85 tune. Made my 67k list C7 look like a total waste of money...

Exactly.

People will dig in to defend or justify their purchase.

What works for one may not work for another. I didn’t want active exhaust. Some do.

I wanted a PP1 because I knew I’d drive the car hard. So that meant I wanted the bigger brakes and the other performance focused goodies. Some prefer to do the add ins themselves.

There’s no right or wrong answer. I also wanted the bigger screen and spoiler.

One thing I do regret is not going digital dash. I’d go 401A for that and the better leather in a heartbeat if I could do it over.

 

[WildHorse]

For minimal cash get a set of BMR SP083 handling springs paired with the Ford Performance M18000F shock kit, slap it on a base GT and let the good times roll. Just my opinion.

 

[Dave TBG]

The brakes and torsen will set you back $4k alone not including install..... The Tires, wheel etc.. another $2400 min..... I agree the suspension leaves a lot to be desired but its hard to argue that the torsen, the brakes and tires are not the biggest upgrades you can do to the car. I can understand thinking the brakes are a waste if you are not tracking the car but tires/wheels and a torsen is something everyone is going to feel.

exactly what shiester do you frequent? The Diff assembly is barely $1000 (https://www.cjponyparts.com/ford-pe...gears-v6-ecoboost-gt-2015-2020/p/M400188355A/) and add another net of $500 for the Torsen. The brakes are $1300'ish.

Labor to install is a long way below a grand. If I had the shop install the PP radiator I'd still have more than enough money left over from the 4k pot to buy+install Steeda/BMR parts which are actually useful unlike the Ford stuff.

I haven't looked into the Torsen upgrade, but the brakes, wheels and tires will set you back a total of about $1600 shipped if you do it right. Not that I'd ever pay for 33 lb wheels that are barely wider than stock, the tires may be an upgrade but the wheels are a disaster.

 

[carguy231]

Personally I think my 19' PP1 car without Magride rides just fine and use it as my daily. Plenty of road trips, and no complaints. Although I have swapped out the wheels/tires.

I drive my 17 GT PP everyday too. And I drive it in Track mode at all times. Love the car.

 

[1958cyclist]

Shades of gray which Ford is compelled to do to keep some degree of separation between the PP1, PP2 and the GT 350. It seems to boil down to, what are you planning to do with your car? For most road only applications, the PP1 is probably more than adequate. PP2 is a good compromise for mostly road use and some HPDE or track day sessions with the possible exception of needing a rear diff cooler depending upon track length and number of laps per session. The GT 350 leans more toward performance track use than the PP2 with diff, trans and other bits which make more regular or longer track events more livable.

Having said all this, I purchased a 2017 PP1 which was the only option available at the time. Since I've recently developed an interest in HPDE events, I've found that at least for a driver who is returning to track events after many years away, that adding a set of Vorshlag custom offset ForgeStar 11" wheels, (305/30-19 tires, square set up), their camber plates and Steeda's Progressive Rate Sport Springs, that the car's handling capacity is currently well above my skill set for track use. I am considering a rear diff cooler, there are a couple out there for around $1,000.00 that are much easier to adapt than Ford's unit and about half the cost. So far, the 4 mile, 6 lap sessions I've been doing haven't tripped the diff overheating light. The car is still very comfortable on the road for longer trips and the larger square tire set up has reduced understeer a bit. Some additional negative front camber...about 2 degrees...and the Steeda springs seem to provide a very good compromise for the four or so track days and mostly road driving.

I'm sure the MagnaRide adds much to either use, but unfortunately it was not an option in 2017.

 

[Decanes]

Shades of gray which Ford is compelled to do to keep some degree of separation between the PP1, PP2 and the GT 350. It seems to boil down to, what are you planning to do with your car? For most road only applications, the PP1 is probably more than adequate. PP2 is a good compromise for mostly road use and some HPDE or track day sessions with the possible exception of needing a rear diff cooler depending upon track length and number of laps per session. The GT 350 leans more toward performance track use than the PP2 with diff, trans and other bits which make more regular or longer track events more livable.

Having said all this, I purchased a 2017 PP1 which was the only option available at the time. Since I've recently developed an interest in HPDE events, I've found that at least for a driver who is returning to track events after many years away, that adding a set of Vorshlag custom offset ForgeStar 11" wheels, (305/30-19 tires, square set up), their camber plates and Steeda's Progressive Rate Sport Springs, that the car's handling capacity is currently well above my skill set for track use. I am considering a rear diff cooler, there are a couple out there for around $1,000.00 that are much easier to adapt than Ford's unit and about half the cost. So far, the 4 mile, 6 lap sessions I've been doing haven't tripped the diff overheating light. The car is still very comfortable on the road for longer trips and the larger square tire set up has reduced understeer a bit. Some additional negative front camber...about 2 degrees...and the Steeda springs seem to provide a very good compromise for the four or so track days and mostly road driving.

I'm sure the MagnaRide adds much to either use, but unfortunately it was not an option in 2017.

Your point is well taken on what you are planning to do with the car but it is also what look some people want as well. Like me I will never hit a track some a PP1 is over kill but love the look. I would bet over half of the GT350, GT350R, and GT500 never see a track they are bought because they like them.

 

[LetItRide1978]

Based on some of these comments, it sounds like my spec (400A, PP1, MagneRide, Active Exhaust, Carbon Sport Interior) is rare to find on a dealer lot. This is exactly what I wanted and I remember thinking no dealer is gonna have this random spec, but it happened to be on the first Mustang I looked at at the first dealership I went to.

 

[Zinc03svt]

On Father’s Day 2018 I swung the family into our local Ford dealer for chits and grins. I made the mistake two weeks earlier driving both pp1 and non pp1 a10 cars. Wife totally digged the pp1 over the non with more options. Two weeks later after haggling w/ 3 dealers I owned one. ;).

 

[13GetThere]

On Father’s Day 2018 I swung the family into our local Ford dealer for chits and grins. I made the mistake two weeks earlier driving both pp1 and non pp1 a10 cars. Wife totally digged the pp1 over the non with more options. Two weeks later after haggling w/ 3 dealers I owned one. ;).

Wives can come in handy sometimes. If I didn't have mine, I'd still be driving a 2013 Brembo GT, instead of a 2019 PP2.

 

[WildHorse]

I specifically wanted a 300a GT in Grabber Blue. Dealer couldn't find one anywhere. So I had to order it. Was worth the wait Swapped out the 18" tires/rims for 19x9 front 19x10 rear (came with tires). Then sold the 18's so net loss was only a couple hundred bucks. Bought firehawk tires and sold the NT05/NT05R (basically take offs) for a decent price. Helped in offsetting the cost. So far, well ahead of the game.

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