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Ah that's true good point.

BTW, where in AZ are you located. Graduated from Cortez High School in Phoenix but actually grew up in Mesa. Joined the Army and after the Army moved to Los Angeles. After my youngest graduated from High School probably going to move back. Make $150K a year and still have no money at the end of the month. Rent a 2 bdrm Townhome near the beach and its almost $3500 per month.
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BTW, where in AZ are you located. Graduated from Cortez High School in Phoenix but actually grew up in Mesa. Joined the Army and after the Army moved to Los Angeles. After my youngest graduated from High School probably going to move back. Make $150K a year and still have no money at the end of the month. Rent a 2 bdrm Townhome near the beach and its almost $3500 per month.
My dad graduated from there too! I'm in Phx, recently moved from Biltmore area down to south mountain. Miss that area but could never afford a new build there. So traded my ancient condo and built a house.

I love so cal. Grew up spending summers in Carlsbad / Oceanside. Would live there in a heart beat if could ever afford it. But to your point, you gotta make 3x what you make here to have comparable standard of living there. But the year round temps there, Pacific breeze, the ability to go surf on a whim. Cruising the pch. But would need to trade in and start build from scratch to be even close to carb compliant :crackup:
 

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We had a bunch of Californians move to Texas in the past say 10 years. The cost of living up there plus all the regulations, I dont know how you all do it. Lol. Just please leave you politics in California, we dont pay that down here in Texas lol ;)
 

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To follow up on @Lbj question: I stand by my previous comments in this thread. Admittedly, I am driving only once a week or less since I am working from home indefinitely. However, I did drive today, and my comments regarding less rev hang with the 6MT still stand as probably the most underrated and unexpectedly nice part of this tune. Our friend at Engineering Explained on YouTube had a great video on this concept just recently.

Regarding power, by my estimation this tune is most noticeable for 6MT cars and less obvious on A10s since we have fewer gears and spend more time around that 2K +40lb-ft peak. Since it’s gotten hotter now into July, I do “think” I feel some timing being pulled due to higher IATs from a long stop where the CAI has started to get heat soaked. At speed I notice this less and consistently see +10 or so IATs over ambient. The torque bump is nice, though I can’t say I notice a lot of top end improvement, and Ford didn’t advertise this as such. At best, I may notice a cumulative improvement in acceleration, subjectively, since power under the curve is higher.

Looking back on my choice to get this tune, I can say that I wish I had tried E85 even though it’s harder to get here; a 93 flex tune would have been great to try. However, I am not able to say whether other tunes would improve rev hang which was a severely frustrating aspect of the stock tune to me. Not that I bought this tune for that effect, as Ford doesn’t advertise this tune as “fixing” rev hang for 6MT cars, but it’s a nice side effect of this tune. If I could get E85 power and this fixed version of rev hang, that’s probably the ideal NA tune to me. Maybe if I get bored I’ll try an E85 tune in the future to see what other gains are there and whether the aftermarket has learned anything about rev hang from this ford tune. I say this with no knowledge of what aftermarket tunes can do for rev hang, nor what they can do for A10 cars shift tuning.

I’m happy enough with this tune as an “easy button”. If that philosophy appeals to you, then get it. If not, exploring other options such as E85 if it’s available to you are better if you’re looking for the best pure power gains. As always, choices have compromises.
 

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No we are not. I wasn’t concerned with the warranty. My car gets so few miles with working from home due to COVID and not driving it in the winter. I really just wanted it since I have the FP handling pack for MagneRide. Wanted both calibrations to be Ford Performance. Silly reason, I know. He’s been wanting me to get the FP/Roush supercharger next to install together. Now if I get that someday, it would be worth it to me to have it installed at the dealership for peace of mind.
I’m thinking about getting the magneride handling pack. I hear people say that the sway bar end links get bent or there are popping noises? also that it’s too soft of a suspension pack. What are your thoughts?
 
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I’m thinking about getting the handling pack. I hear people say that the sway bar end links get bent or there are popping noises? also

That it’s too soft of a suspension pack. What are your thoughts?
I have the Ford Racing Track Package...love it.
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I am starting to see some reviews of this kit on order sites and several say they smooth out and make the A10 more alive and shift smoother and remove stock jerkiness.
 

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I have an A10 premium and feel the difference everyday! You will notice the extra low end torque and shift changes. Again, for a daily driver with no plans to do more mods, its a solid tune!
 

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Here is a question that only the manufacturers would know, but I’ll ask it anyway. Why does the Roush Performance pack come with a CAI And no throttle body and the ford calibration pack come with a throttle body and no CAI. Lol. Which company made the better choice for gains?
 

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^^ the new ford kit comes with a throttle body and a CAI..
 

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I’m thinking about getting the magneride handling pack. I hear people say that the sway bar end links get bent or there are popping noises? also that it’s too soft of a suspension pack. What are your thoughts?
I really like it. No popping noises in mine. The sway bars are two-way adjustable so you can stiffen it up a little if you want. The dealership that installed mine put the front bar in the soft setting (outer mounting hole) and the rear bar in the stiffer setting (inner mounting hole) for some reason. This was a little too harsh for me on bad roads so I had the rear bar adjusted to the softer setting and it’s perfect for me now. Also make sure you get an alignment if you have this kit installed.

As for how it feels, I took a 2 hour each way road trip yesterday in Normal mode and the car felt like a comfy highway cruiser. Sport and Track are stiffer and feel nice around corners. The stock MagneRide calibration didn’t feel quite right to me at times but the FP one that comes with the kit is an improvement in my opinion. I’m sure there are more aggressive setups out there but this kit is great for a street car. I don’t do any track driving so I can’t comment on that.
 

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After that comment, a commenter said they didnt get the growl sound. But I did. Sounds pretty good IMO.
Is it really a "growl" though? It definitely makes more noise than stock but it's more of a faint "whoosh." Like, it's there, but I'd be hard pressed to use it as a selling point.

For comparison, my old stratus had a k&n filter slapped on, by the previous owner, and made a very loud whistle. My old Mustang had a CAI that ran into the fender and had aluminum piping and also had a loud whistle at part throttle. Both were very satisfying and unmistakable.

I was about to say that maybe my aftermarket exhaust is skewing the sound but, upon typing that up, I remembered my old Mustang was considerably louder. Maybe the hood lining muffles the sound a bit? I'd be curious to see if an aftermarket filter sounds better but I'm a fan of how much better paper is at filtering.
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