Ford buy-back/replacement

[stanglife]

Man, I was totally in the middle but now the "should have bought a track pack" theme is feeling pretty solid over here. It's a broken record and the cynical side of me hopes Ford wins the supposed suit, stops making Mustangs forever and blames the participants of the attempted suit.

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[kratty]

"as long as a problem doesnt present itself under street legal driving conditions then there is no problem"

This is some of the most absurd logic I have ever read.

Example 1: A frayed/fraying serpentine belt may provide absolutely no sign of a problem to the average driver until it snaps. In fact, a frayed belt may last many, many miles of normal driving conditions before it lets go.

But fraying apparently does not constitute a "problem."

Example 2: My mom died of lung cancer. But what got her was not in a problem with her lungs, but was instead the metastasized tumors in her brain that led to a catastrophic stroke.

Her "problem" didn't present itself under normal living conditions until it was far too late.

But apparently there was no problem. The cancer didn't exist until she stroked out, right? Is that how this is supposed to work?

 

[lemers]

"as long as a problem doesnt present itself under street legal driving conditions then there is no problem"

This is some of the most absurd logic I have ever read.

Example 1: A frayed/fraying serpentine belt may provide absolutely no sign of a problem to the average driver until it snaps. In fact, a frayed belt may last many, many miles of normal driving conditions before it lets go.

But fraying apparently does not constitute a "problem."

Example 2: My mom died of lung cancer. But what got her was not in a problem with her lungs, but was instead the metastasized tumors in her brain that led to a catastrophic stroke.

Her "problem" didn't present itself under normal living conditions until it was far too late.

But apparently there was no problem. The cancer didn't exist until she stroked out, right? Is that how this is supposed to work?

Well that was the logic that they applied to other problems so why not to this problem?

Example 2 has nothing to do with cars or warranties.

But i have a stitch that popped on my seat. Only 4500 miles should i get a new seat?

 

[DrDing.Muscle]

Ford bought my wife's ecoboost back because it took them 8 months to fix the vibration issue with the rear end. No questions asked really and no arbitration. They also paid for her to be in a rental car the entire 8 months. It sucked at the time but worked out in the end.

 

[Tank]

Example 2: My mom died of lung cancer. But what got her was not in a problem with her lungs, but was instead the metastasized tumors in her brain that led to a catastrophic stroke.

Her "problem" didn't present itself under normal living conditions until it was far too late.

But apparently there was no problem. The cancer didn't exist until she stroked out, right? Is that how this is supposed to work?

Oh man, that sounds horrible....in empathy :cheers: to you, your family and your mom

 

[Zitrosounds]

Well that was the logic that they applied to other problems so why not to this problem?

Example 2 has nothing to do with cars or warranties.

But i have a stitch that popped on my seat. Only 4500 miles should i get a new seat?

"Well that was the logic that they applied to other problems", who's they? You speak in generalities lol have you even experienced limp mode? Did you bring your concern to the dealer? Have you documented all the times the car has gone into limp mode and taken it to the dealer? See, if you did you could have probably had some sort of resolution. The difference between these 2 cases is rather obvious but to a few. OK! maybe just one lol. Limp mode is a powertrain protection. A crack to the ENGINE CYLINDER BLOCK is a component material FAILURE. this type of failure is covered under WARRANTY. I guess if limp mode did not kick in you would be in my shoes and have had multiple engine related failures. Instead your engine is structurally sound and well.

 

[Strokerswild]

A crack to the ENGINE CYLINDER BLOCK is a component material FAILURE.

This.

One of the most painstaking parts of performance engine building involves deburring the freshly machined engine block. Some of this deburring involves breaking all sharp edges of a machined surface. One reason for this is that the block will be handled by humans, and sooner or later someone is going to get hacked open on one of these edges. The other reason is to lessen the likelihood of stress risers along these edges, which can propagate into cracks, which grow, leading to engine failure.

Cracks in engine blocks are bad, see.

 

[Zitrosounds]

Dealer called me today to tell me Ford Performance said that my engine needs replacement, AGAIN, for the crack on the block. DUH!!!! Guess a crack to the block is not good after all huh [MENTION=18204]lemers[/MENTION]? DOH! ; )

 

[Minn19]

Dealer called me today to tell me Ford Performance said that my engine needs replacement, AGAIN, for the crack on the block. DUH!!!! Guess a crack to the block is not good after all huh [MENTION=18204]lemers[/MENTION]? DOH!

Any update on the buyback process? Or any talk of it at all with Ford?

 

[Mustang1260]

"But i have a stitch that popped on my seat. Only 4500 miles should i get a new seat?"

No- you are not entitled to a new seat but a new seat cover..probably.

 

[Zitrosounds]

Any update on the buyback process? Or any talk of it at all with Ford?

Yeah! CSM was waiting on the call from Ford. This process could not begin until a maintenance repair decision was established.

 

[lemers]

"But i have a stitch that popped on my seat. Only 4500 miles should i get a new seat?"

No- you are not entitled to a new seat but a new seat cover..probably.

So by your logic only the piece that is cracked on the engine shoild be replaced? Not the entire engine or the entire car.

 

[Twin Turbo]

Enough with the bickering, thank you.

 

[Mike02z]

So by your logic only the piece that is cracked on the engine shoild be replaced? Not the entire engine or the entire car.

Dude, what is up with you? I have always thought you were a voice of reason. You seem to be pissing up a rope here. I have no idea how a crack in the block can be anything but a major defect that requires the replacement of an engine. Not sure where you are coming from as your logic makes no sense to me.

I sure hope you don't find a cracked block on your car. Are you saying you would not worry about it until your crank falls out? Or are you just picking a position and refusing to admit you're wrong? Or do you have some ax to grind with Harold? Something is not adding up.

 

[Epiphany]

Dealer called me today to tell me Ford Performance said that my engine needs replacement...

Was there any written correspondence and if so did your dealer share that with you? I'm just curious as to the wording anyone from Ford Performance may have used in this case.

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