2017 GT350 Engine toast, buy back process?

[3star2nr]

So let me get this straight. Youre mad at ford for honoring their powertrain Warranty...

And you are refusing to have your car repaired unless they do it on your terms...

No where in the agreement does it stipulate that ford has to tear down the engine or give you A break down about what happened. All they owe you is a replacement motor.

Take the engine and move on... You're being super unreasonable sorry to be blunt.

Plus you May not WANT them to tear down the motor. It could have failed due to an assembly mistake or due to YOU not letting the engine get to operating temps, or not monitoring your oil pressure and temps, or lugging the motor, or excessive idling, or improper break in...

Regardless of how it failed, it failed. Fords doing the right thing So please just accept victory and move on. Companies look for literally any reason to deny warranties.

If you aren't happy with your car sell the car and get a Corolla.

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[3star2nr]

Reading this was honestly like hearing a girl bitch about her boyfriend being too nice... Seriously?

Youre really going to complain about getting a free $15,000.00 engine, free 2000.00 worth in labor cost, and a free $300/week replacement vehicle while they fix it... thats what youre doing right now... Thats actually a thing... Unbelievable...

 

[Dtroy1003]

I think you are looking at this wrong. Just my opinion here. But how does a NEW motor hurt its value? I myself would rather get a new motor in mine then a "fixed" Original. After 2 years Im sure the New motor will be an improved version over the original in some form. Also as a buyer if I were to go into a dealer to look at a used gt350 this would be a bonus for me actually. The main reason I do not buy used performance cars is I have no idea how the owner treated them, I mean they are performance cars after all. If the deal said but this one has a brand new motor in it... I may ask why but at end of day who cares is has a brand new not beat on motor in it not some repaired one that exploded.... That's a bonus. (not that you beat on yours I just saying) the engine is not the car per say so if the rest of the car is perfect and the engine is new, for me and Im sure others, this would be a used car buying bonus. If anything else in your car broke under warranty, Im sure you would prefer it be replaced with a new part and not "fixed" why is the engine any different? I personally would be excited they are replacing it with a brand new engine. I hate stuff just being fixed because then Im always worried its gonna happen again or become unfixed. I say if you enjoy the car and we're gonna keep it then get the new engine and enjoy further. If you were (and not meant as an insult as we all been there) looking to find a reason to get rid of it and this is it , then get it fixed and sell it i seriously dont think a new engine is gonna hurt its value at all.

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

 

[Dtroy1003]

OP:
To even enter into Ford RAV Buy Back, the vehicle Owner must let Ford repair the car under the Warranty provisions. By you not wanting them to repair because of ABCD, isn’t going to help your claim.

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There is some misinformation here in this thread...

1st, “value of car” - it’s a Shelby and granted Ford is giving him a chance at receiving a brand new engine under warranty, it’s no longer a numbers matching vehicle or engine. Some Shelby Owners are always wanting numbers matching this or that, but the engine received will not have any VIN or matching numbers to that vehicle. Future resale ona non-numbers marching Shelby could be an issue only IF a Buyer is a die hard Shelby fanatic. To anyone else, it wont matter.

2nd, even though the OP’s vehicle is a 2017 model year, most US State Lemon Laws do have wording that stipulates in order to make a claim, the claim must be made within 2 years or 24,000 miles of the vehicle purchase date. The OP purchased the 2017 in November 2017 AND it has under 24k, so he still has time to file a claim.

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OP:
Search my user ID and the words “RAV”, “Buy Back” or “Lemon”. You’re going to find lots of Buy Back information and facts that I’ve posted across this site.

You need to know the Lemon Law in OH if that’s your home State. Look it up on your DMV or State Attorney General’s site. Do not use 3rd party or non-official websites for that info or BBB - some of those sites contain outdated data and misinformation. Ford and Ford RAV does not deviate from any State Lemon Laws, they follow it.

If your Home State imposes penalties or fees, those are mandatory based on the Lemon Law provisions and are not a “Ford thing”. Again this is why you need to know your State’s Lemon Laws.

You have to let Ford attempt repair, period. The Service Center, nor Ford is going to dig into the blown engine to tell you or anyone else for that matter, exactly what caused the failure. Once they declare a catastrophic failure, they have received authorization from Ford AND granted you a replacement, be happy and take it. The new engine will come with warranty.

Many State Lemon Laws will also have a provision that if a vehicle has been inop at the Dealer for 30 consecutive days OR 30 calendar days in a year (every State is different). So if it takes the Dealership that time frame from start to finish to diagnose, get a replacement engine and the whole R&R process - then the vehicle would instantly qualify for a Lemon Law claim.

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Here ya go, review this thread which is similar to your situation:
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/th...th-a-buyback-after-engine-replacement.111459/

Thank you for this information. Yes I have been looking into this quite a bit. I will be taking your feedback into thought as well. Thank you

 

[Dtroy1003]

How often did you check the oil level? I think these cars burn a decent amount of oil if driven how they are supposed to. Enough to probably have a low oil level after a few thousand miles.

I would check the oil quite often. I actually had the car in at the dealership 3 months before this happened for a multi point inspection. With that said, I only drove it for maybe a full month after that inspection. Regardless, to answer your question, yes there was oil in the car.

Thanks

 

[3star2nr]

People who are buying a car based on whether the "numbers match" seriously do not deserve to drive these cars much less own them...

Y'all should buy a BMW or some other status symbol car... A Mustang is for people who drive. Not people who want the male version of a louis Vuitton purse...

 

[Dtroy1003]

Reading this was honestly like hearing a girl bitch about her boyfriend being too nice... Seriously?

Youre really going to complain about getting a free $15,000.00 engine, free 2000.00 worth in labor cost, and a free $300/week replacement vehicle while they fix it... thats what youre doing right now... Thats actually a thing... Unbelievable...

Reading this was honestly like hearing a girl bitch about her boyfriend being too nice... Seriously?

Youre really going to complain about getting a free $15,000.00 engine, free 2000.00 worth in labor cost, and a free $300/week replacement vehicle while they fix it... thats what youre doing right now... Thats actually a thing... Unbelievable...

My initial question was, "Has anyone gone through a buy back process?" That is a legit question and issue that many people in this world have. Have you heard of this? Lemon law, have you heard that? These actually happen to people. That is why a lemon law exist. Are you aware of this? This is called, real adult situations.

Now I know you are probably sitting in your gaming chair in your parents basement, but when you decide to join a Forum, please try to discuss an issue with someone like an adult. Or in your case, like a big boy.

Take it easy,

Thanks

 

[Bald Menace]

2nd, even though the OP’s vehicle is a 2017 model year, most US State Lemon Laws do have wording that stipulates in order to make a claim, the claim must be made within 2 years or 24,000 miles of the vehicle purchase date. The OP purchased the 2017 in November 2017 AND it has under 24k, so he still has time to file a claim.

The Ohio Lemon Law covers drivers whose vehicles suffer a non-conformity or defect within the first 12 months or 18,000 miles, whichever comes first, that can't be repaired after repeated attempts (normally three) by the manufacturer's authorized dealership. ... To review the OH Lemon Law, see the Ohio Lemon Law Statute.

 

[3star2nr]

My initial question was, "Has anyone gone through a buy back process?" That is a legit question and issue that many people in this world have. Have you heard of this? Lemon law, have you heard that? These actually happen to people. That is why a lemon law exist. Are you aware of this? This is called, real adult situations.

Now I know you are probably sitting in your gaming chair in your parents basement, but when you decide to join a Forum, please try to discuss an issue with someone like an adult. Or in your case, like a big boy.

Take it easy,

Thanks

Sell your car.... Buy a Corolla... You're not built for this...

You're bitching now with a warranty that you are CHOOSING to not accept... How the hell are u going to handle ownership out of warranty?

Seriously why did you even buy the warranty if you don't want them to honor it...

Bringing up Lemon law... You're truly unbelievable... Wow... Just wow...

 

[3star2nr]

You're in way over your head... And you have no idea whats coming... And what you're in for.

Textbook, definition of an entitled BMW owner...

Wait till you need your first set of tires and a clutch you're gonna shit yourself...

Car needs brake pads... "Fucking unreliable ford! This car is junk..."

Please tell me this thread is a giant joke... If youre serious do yourself a favor, let ford swap the engine and go trade the car for a toyota Corolla..

You're not built for this life. Youve been weighed in the balance and have been found wanting...

Youre literally bitching about ford honoring their word... But I'm the childish one... Youre a fucking joke

 

[3star2nr]

The Ohio Lemon Law covers drivers whose vehicles suffer a non-conformity or defect within the first 12 months or 18,000 miles, whichever comes first, that can't be repaired after repeated attempts (normally three) by the manufacturer's authorized dealership. ... To review the OH Lemon Law, see the Ohio Lemon Law Statute.

Exactly... He hasnt even given ford the opportunity to honor the warranty... I really hope he does make a claim so the judge can laugh his entitled ass out the court room...

 

[el-guapin]

Everyone just needs to chill!!..
OP: As many have mentioned, do not start a buyback claim process until you allow the dealership /service center to "fix" the issue. In this case, replace the engine. You will be wasting time as the claim will most definitely be denied.

 

[Dtroy1003]

Everyone just needs to chill!!..
OP: As many have mentioned, do not start a buyback claim process until you allow the dealership /service center to "fix" the issue. In this case, replace the engine. You will be wasting time as the claim will most definitely be denied.

Thanks. I spoke with the Tech at the Dealer as well as the manager. They did mention to me that the Tech said there is absolutely no abuse of this vehicle so he will stand by me with a claim. As well as the manager. Although I made a claim before the engine swap they are still looking into it without denial yet. If it does get denied, like you mentioned then yes I will have to go the engine swap route and go from there. I appreciate it. thanks.

 

[AlmostFamous]

As others have mentioned, they’re not replacing your engine with a 2017 5.2L but the upgraded 2019 5.2L. The 2019 5.2L doesn’t have the oil consumption issues like the earlier iterations.

 

[3star2nr]

End of day I would be thrilled to get a new engine in my 2 year old used car for free. Hell some people with perfectly good engines Im sure would take the new and improved version if it was free. I mean My engines fine but if in two years it is stil running great and ford said hey you want this brand new one that's new and improved for free i would say hell yeah rip the old one out. IM simple lost on someone being upset over getting a new engine. I mean you are getting a zero mile improved engine. Take it and run. sure I mean your upset over the other one being blown and you want your car back I get it. but heck you are getting a new engine I would be more than excited.

Exactly, op is the type of dude that would win the lotto and be pissed off because he has to pay taxes on it...

You cant win with some people...

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