FL 2087 update (interesting information)

[Tomster]

I have some coming and for those in dire need, I'll help out.

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[brokenblinker]

I’ll comment. Just got back from Capitol Ford and yes they do have a few filters, they let me buy one, hoped to buy more but they said they are keeping stock for service. Does make sense. Had I been able to get more I planned to offer extras. Hopefully this shortage won’t last much longer. Incidentally they charged me $42.36 + tax, $46.33.

If you find anyone that doesn't have one, let me know. I got a single spare for myself, but I'd much rather it go to someone that is trying to get their car out of the garage than for me to have a spare for 6 months from now.

I live only about 10 minutes from Capital Ford

 

[Stang 19]

Here are the alternatives

I contacted K & N and they stated that they do not manufacture an oil filter for the GT 500 so I’m not sure what this is about

 

[GTthree50]

If you find anyone that doesn't have one, let me know. I got a single spare for myself, but I'd much rather it go to someone that is trying to get their car out of the garage than for me to have a spare for 6 months from now.

I live only about 10 minutes from Capital Ford

I will. Didn’t know before driving down there they’d only allow me to buy a single filter, pretty long way to go for a filter but this is what we are faced with.

 

[JAJ]

I contacted K & N and they stated that they do not manufacture an oil filter for the GT 500 so I’m not sure what this is about

Pretty simple really, think about it this way: K&N makes a filter for some Ford applications (as we see in the video) that is the same physical size as an FL2087. However, for some reason that K&N knows and that we don't, they believe that the filter in question is not suitable for use in the GT500, so they say they don't have a GT500/GT350 filter.

 

[galaxy]

It's a similar scenario with Amsoil. It's not listed for that application simply (and only) because Ford lists the 2087 for that application. Amsoil built this filter to cross-ref the 2062, and thus the only reason it doesn't show up. With the stroke of a keyboard, both companies could make their filter, the exact same filter, cross with the 2087 and there you'd have it. I'm sure they'd do some research on the topic first though.

In Amsoil's case, their research has led to a determination that the 2087 is an upgraded 2062, for which their filter was already superior. I passed along the info, and maybe if more inquiries are made, they may update the cross-ref, but there are zero plans to update the filter, and I don't disagree with them. When the Amsoil filter was made to cross with the 2062, it already had a synthetic media, a metal mesh on the inside of the media, and a more robust internal (albeit plastic) frame -- superior in every way.

 

[Tomster]

superior in every way.

Again, if you choose to use that filter, then that's your decision. I wouldn't say the amsoil filter is superior in every way because it doesn't have the same structural support that the fl 2087 has. Furthermore, should there be a problem, the filter according to amsoil isn't the correct filter for the GT500 or any other vehicle that requires the use of a 2087. That isn't going to look good if there was a problem. That in its own right may very well be an automatic void of the warranty, but you won't know until you find yourself in that spot.

 

[galaxy]

My superior comment was in regards to the 2067.

 

[Tomster]

My superior comment was in regards to the 2067.

You mean the 2062? That filter is no longer compatible and is no longer a cross reference.

Although I have lots of track time on the 2062s in my Rs, I wouldn't want to get caught with one of those installed of the engine let go.

 

[galaxy]

Yeah, my bad...2062. Type to fast, LOL...you know what i meant.

I do agree on the "risk acceptance" on the vehicles not cross-ref'd with the 2087 though. Even though I argue the point, I get it. Well, I get it in that scenario, LOL. It's still funny though, cause all they (Amsoil, K&N, etc) would do is update the cross-ref; absolutely nothing would be done to the filter itself...but I'm pretty sure you already know this ;)

 

[Tomster]

I get it. You are a smart guy. You are applying common sense to this. But unfortunately those who have a warranty have to protect themselves. I am happy to see the supply chain start to come back after all this madness. I have a bunch of filters inbound and when I get them, I plan to share.

Once the warranty is over, then anyone is free to choose whatever filter they want to use without any concern of warranties.

I dont wish to appear to argue with you. I consider you a friend and someone who is very knowledgeable about what he is talking about. I agree you could probably run a 2062 with no problem. I did for years and it was under extreme conditions without any effects. So please don't think I am bickering with you over a trivial subject. It is important to protect your warranty if you have one.

 

[Angrey]

A better solution is the one I've already presented. A typical Dorman cartridge assembly has a perforated metal tube that the filter slips over. Then there's no need for fancy and expensive one time use cartridge filters with throw away metal.

Or better yet, a remote filter setup where you run the canister style of your choice.

 

[Tomster]

A better solution is the one I've already presented. A typical Dorman cartridge assembly has a perforated metal tube that the filter slips over. Then there's no need for fancy and expensive one time use cartridge filters with throw away metal.

Or better yet, a remote filter setup where you run the canister style of your choice.

And all of which would void your warranty.

 

[galaxy]

@Tomster dude…bro…trust me…none of this is anything more than gearhead banter between friends. Dead serious.

And yeah….you’re an idiot to be unwilling to run a quality factory replacement cartridge filter, but willing to run a full up remote set up if warranty is your concern! LOL.

 

[Angrey]

@Tomster dude…bro…trust me…none of this is anything more than gearhead banter between friends. Dead serious.

And yeah….you’re an idiot to be unwilling to run a quality factory replacement cartridge filter, but willing to run a full up remote set up if warranty is your concern! LOL.

My point was, if you're going to void the warranty, then at least go with something that's going to resolve or eliminate Ford's choice in the first place.

Going with a filter that's a modeled after the 2062 both voids the warranty and still retains the issue of frame failure.

If you're gonna go away from the 2087, then a remote with a quality/proven canister is probably win win. Not just in terms of eliminating all this bullshit, but making oil changes easier.

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