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First Oil change

When are you changing your oil

  • After full oil change cycle

    Votes: 138 42.5%
  • After 1,000 miles

    Votes: 181 55.7%
  • Immediately because I prefer XXX oil

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Read Anthony@HTM thread about his two oil lab tests. Convinces me to have my first oil change before 1,000 miles! I am also installing a magnetic oil drain plug.
 

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We did 500 miles, dropped the factory fill oil and sent it off to Blackstone Labs who confirmed - high silicone and particulate matter of all kinds. None of which was visible to the naked eye. In my other life as an engineer at a major engine manufacturer neither are any of the particulate we filter out of the fuel system with the 10micron pre-filter and 2micron filter on the fuel system.


Can you get away with doing a normal drain interval during run-in? Sure. Lots of engines on the road today do it.

In any engine I cared about, I wouldn't.
 
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Read Anthony@HTM thread about his two oil lab tests. Convinces me to have my first oil change before 1,000 miles! I am also installing a magnetic oil drain plug.

Yes sir. Done!


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Now you guys get me started. The new Mustang has, like most new cars these days, a sensor what shows the lifespan of the engine oil. Ford does say, that an oil change should be made every 10,000 miles / 16,000 km. You guys ignoring this, with changing the oil. The sensor should, like in our old Mercedes, show if you have to change earlier.
FWIW, the car does not have a sensor that measures the oil. The oil life monitoring system is a mathematical algorithm that keeps track of how often the engine is started and the duration of each trip (it may include other factors like temperature) and calculates when the oil should be changed. Lots of short trips will result in more often oil change recomendations and fewer long trips will result in fewer.

I typically keep cars for 7-10 years and put 200,000 + miles on them. I have always done the first change in the 1000-1500 range and 7500 miles there after using synthetic oil. This has served me well and I plan to continue with the Mustang.

I have always used the largest oil filter that will fit too. I have an Ecoboost which calls for a tiny FL910S filter. For the first change I used an FL400S which is about 2" longer with the same diameter. It allows a full 6 qts of oil verse the manual number of 5.7 with the short filter. The old standby FL1A filter will fit if I do a little grinding on a web on the filter adapter but haven't decided to do that yet. This filter will allow close to 7 qts of oil in the system.
 

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FWIW, the car does not have a sensor that measures the oil. The oil life monitoring system is a mathematical algorithm that keeps track of how often the engine is started and the duration of each trip (it may include other factors like temperature) and calculates when the oil should be changed. Lots of short trips will result in more often oil change recomendations and fewer long trips will result in fewer.

I typically keep cars for 7-10 years and put 200,000 + miles on them. I have always done the first change in the 1000-1500 range and 7500 miles there after using synthetic oil. This has served me well and I plan to continue with the Mustang.

I have always used the largest oil filter that will fit too. I have an Ecoboost which calls for a tiny FL910S filter. For the first change I used an FL400S which is about 2" longer with the same diameter. It allows a full 6 qts of oil verse the manual number of 5.7 with the short filter. The old standby FL1A filter will fit if I do a little grinding on a web on the filter adapter but haven't decided to do that yet. This filter will allow close to 7 qts of oil in the system.

THIS. algorithm based vs direct oil sensors, although they are fairly accurate, they are not perfect. I will agree oils and engines with today's technology can definitely go beyond a 3k oil change interval. I'd say 5k minimum for a full synthetic and up to 7500-10k for light use vehicles.

My first oil change at 1k was for magnetic oil plug.
Next will be at 5k.
From then on 5k intervals

I have a feeling the MT-82 will fail prior to engine trouble

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Piece Of Cake

Just turned 5,000 miles on my ride. I put it up on ramps in the driveway yesterday. After removing the plastic shield (2) 10mm screws and (4) 7mm screws, access to the filter is much easier than in my 2011 GT. The addition of the oil cooler allows the filter to sit lower and is a breeze to unscrew and drain. I replaced the filter FL-500-S and added a magnetic drain plug to the pan. Then added (8) quarts of Mobil-1 5W-20. Doesn't get much easier, plus I know everything is snug and taken care of. Just Saying.
Glad to be back in PA. 70 degrees and the sun was shining.
 
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The 2015 uses a drain plug with a rubber gasket/o-ring. The drain plug I bought from a national brand auto-parts store has a rubber gasket as part of the plug...same design as the OEM but with a magnetic central core. Will a steel 'washer' be compatible?
 

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Just a few contrarian views:

This is a real paradigm shift for some folks, but aged or used oil does a better job of lubricating an engine - provided of course that the additive pack is not depleted - than fresh oil. Ford (of all people) did a study that showed this - http://papers.sae.org/2007-01-4133/. Other subsequent studies reached the same conclusion. It all revolves around the time/mileage (about 3k mi) it takes for the anti-wear adds (zddp) to become fully functional in fresh or new oil in use.

As for magnetic oil drain plugs, I think there is a good reason why few (if any) oem's install these on their engines. The commonly accepted (and very conservative) condemnation limit for iron wear particles in lube oil is 150 ppm (above 150 ppm iron, the oil may become abrasive and accelerate wear on the softer metals in the engine like copper or lead in bearings). But below 150 ppm, iron particles are not in themselves a problem. If you need a magnet to keep ppm iron below that limit, you're either extending your oil change interval way, way beyond what's proper for your mode of operation, or you've got some other problem with the engine - and you'll never know it if you're doing used oil analyses (uoa's) because the magnet will mask the problem.
 

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The 2015 uses a drain plug with a rubber gasket/o-ring. The drain plug I bought from a national brand auto-parts store has a rubber gasket as part of the plug...same design as the OEM but with a magnetic central core. Will a steel 'washer' be compatible?

I don't know about the steel washer. I bought a stock oil drain plug with the rubber washer. Then I drilled out the center and epoxied a small magnet into the hole. The magnet extends about 1/4 inch past the threads and does the job. It can pick up a small wrench so floating debris if any will be no problem.
 

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Where exactly is the oil life display? My car doesn't seem to have it and I can't find anything in my manual about it.

Maybe the Canadian cars don't get it?

I don't get the rational for changing the oil ahead of the recommended interval. I've got 1000 miles on my car now and I plan to run it all the way to interval before the initial change, unless I don't get it there because it's a summer only car.


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Where exactly is the oil life display? My car doesn't seem to have it and I can't find anything in my manual about it.

Maybe the Canadian cars don't get it?

I don't get the rational for changing the oil ahead of the recommended interval. I've got 1000 miles on my car now and I plan to run it all the way to interval before the initial change, unless I don't get it there because it's a summer only car.


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The oil life (expressed as a per cent of oil life remaining) can be called up in what Ford calls the Information Display - the small screen between the tach and speedo on the instrument panel. This is covered in pp 83-91 of the U.S. Owner's Manual. Displaying oil life in particular is covered on p. 89.

When the oil life gets to 10%, you'll see a text message in the Information Display that says "Change Oil Soon". When the oil life gets to 0%, you'll see "Oil Change Required". See p. 96.
 

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The oil life (expressed as a per cent of oil life remaining) can be called up in what Ford calls the Information Display - the small screen between the tach and speedo on the instrument panel. This is covered in pp 83-91 of the U.S. Owner's Manual. Displaying oil life in particular is covered on p. 89.



When the oil life gets to 10%, you'll see a text message in the Information Display that says "Change Oil Soon". When the oil life gets to 0%, you'll see "Oil Change Required". See p. 96.

Interesting, I was able to find it buried in the menus under vehicle settings.

I won't use it but glad to have found it to be able to reset it with oil changes.


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