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...I made the decision from reading threads and comments from you and others who have done it and were super pleased...

...I look forward to the most is feeling the excellent increase in torque!
I am glad some of us here could steer you in a good direction, AND the increase in torque makes any street car more fun to drive, because a street car has to run through it's gearing while accelerating from a dead stop or from slow speed or slower-moving traffic.

What many people forget is "horsepower" is simply a mathematical function of torque/time.
 

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So, I figured I'd throw in my F-150 journey. I have a 2017 GT manual, that before today was completely stock. I took it to the most reputable (IMO) shop in my state to get it all dailed in on the rollers (National Speed in Wilmington, NC).

With the F-150 intake manifold, I made the following numbers on 93 octane.

428 hp
423 ft lbs

Mods:
2017 F-150 intake manifold
PMAS CAI
Stainless works 1" 7/8 LTH
X- pipe with Roush axle backs

When I pick it up on Saturday, I'm going to have them email the chart and I'll post it here for everyone else to look at. To be honest, I'm satisfied with the gains; however, I wish the hp number was a little higher (maybe 450ish). It isn't my daily driver so maybe I'll try new injectors, stronger pump and e-85 and see what happens.

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I think the torque number is very impressive
 

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I am glad some of us here could steer you in a good direction, AND the increase in torque makes any street car more fun to drive, because a street car has to run through it's gearing while accelerating from a dead stop or from slow speed or slower-moving traffic.

What many people forget is "horsepower" is simply a mathematical function of torque/time.
And the integral of the HP curve in each gear (from the start rpm to end rpm) is what counts in terms of acceleration ;).
 

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With the F-150 intake manifold, I made the following numbers on 93 octane.

428 hp
423 ft lbs

Mods:
2017 F-150 intake manifold
PMAS CAI
Stainless works 1" 7/8 LTH
X- pipe with Roush axle backs


Cheers
As promised, here is the dyno print out from the speed shop. I can say that it is a noticeable difference from stock. However, it isn't a HUGE difference from stock (IMO). With the tune, the power feels well balanced and I am very pleased. Down low the car pulls...hard! Looks like I make peak HP around 5800ish RPM which is fine with me. All in all, the car f'ing RIPS! I'm glad I went with the 2017 F-150 intake!
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Here's an interesting dyno graph I ran across of a 2018 F150. It's hard to overlook the numbers of the 2018 GT manifold.

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Looking at the torque graph above comparing the stock tune vs. e85 + truck manifold tune vs. e85 + '18 GT manifold tune, I have to wonder WHY would someone owning an F-150 pickup want to give up 50 - 100 ft/lbs when running the '18 GT manifold? Seriously, why??

Look at the torque graph from 2,200 rpm to 5,000 rpm. The loss of torque in that rev range with the '18 GT manifold is scary to put it mildly. At 2,200 rpm the '18 GT manifold is giving away 120 ft/lbs!! Why would someone with a pickup truck want to give up that much torque right in the power-band where the truck would be used the most?

My guess is that people using the GT manifold on their truck don't really intend to use their truck as a "truck". In that case, I also have to wonder why those people choose to buy and drive a truck when they want it to perform more like a high-performance car.

I just don't get it...? :headbang:
 

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Looking at the torque graph above comparing the stock tune vs. e85 + truck manifold tune vs. e85 + '18 GT manifold tune, I have to wonder WHY would someone owning an F-150 pickup want to give up 50 - 100 ft/lbs when running the '18 GT manifold? Seriously, why??

Look at the torque graph from 2,200 rpm to 5,000 rpm. The loss of torque in that rev range with the '18 GT manifold is scary to put it mildly. At 2,200 rpm the '18 GT manifold is giving away 120 ft/lbs!! Why would someone with a pickup truck want to give up that much torque right in the power-band where the truck would be used the most?

My guess is that people using the GT manifold on their truck don't really intend to use their truck as a "truck". In that case, I also have to wonder why those people choose to buy and drive a truck when they want it to perform more like a high-performance car.

I just don't get it...? :headbang:
I get why the truck manifold is on a truck: for towing/hauling and getting more torque in the area that it's needed. I agree that there's no sense putting the Mustang manifold on the truck, and that the truck manifold is for truck duty.
 

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I get why the truck manifold is on a truck: for towing/hauling and getting more torque in the area that it's needed. I agree that there's no sense putting the Mustang manifold on the truck, and that the truck manifold is for truck duty.
Probably the same reason a Mustang manifold is for a Mustang? Makes sense! :sunglasses:
 

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I’ll hbe my ported f150 intake up for sale soon once I finish it if anyone is interested.
 

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Here's an interesting dyno graph I ran across of a 2018 F150. It's hard to overlook the numbers of the 2018 GT manifold.

2018-mustang-manifold-on-2018-F150.webp
Interesting graph for sure ... like Voodo said, between the gold & blue lines (apples to apples as both are on e85 tune) what a difference below 5,000 rpm to the disadvantage of the 2018 GT mani. I betcha that owner goes back to the truck intake pronto!
 

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I’ll hbe my ported f150 intake up for sale soon once I finish it if anyone is interested.
Still in process of porting it? I’m still very interested in how a ported f150 intake on E85 performs. Seems like it should create killer torque and help it get it to 7k before falling off, making for a very fun little NA daily driver.
 

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Still in process of porting it? I’m still very interested in how a ported f150 intake on E85 performs. Seems like it should create killer torque and help it get it to maybe 6.5k before falling off, making for a very fun little NA daily driver.
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Finally able to try out my intake to add to the red headed set child!! Mishimoto tube and a 2018 GT airbox lid. Hoping for about 5h/5TQ over the other 3 intakes I’ve had on the car .
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