Be careful now. He is going to demean you for your "f-cking attitude" and ignore you.
I never said what you claim, for starters (read my post again). Ford is simply recommending 5/20 because of the EPA, not because it's the best oil for the engine; that's all. If you still can't see that, why is Ford recommending 5/30 in other countries with the same exact engine?
And I simply said Ford doesn't recommend ANY oil additives, so if you add one, and your oil looks like a latte, and have an engine issue, of course any dealer will immediately notice that. It's like if you arrive home with lipstick all over; you don't even have to open your mouth to be in a world of trouble with the wifey. Simple common sense not to do either one while in warranty or married . And no, I don't trust additives either because NO manufacturer recommends them (not only Ford); they don't call them 'snake oil' for nothing . Nobody who uses it has posted any UOA, so they don't know what that stuff is doing to the oil. My guess is making it much thicker than they think. I'd use M1 0/40 at a last resort before even thinking of using any of that crap, but hopefully I won't have to. We'll see.. I already bought the FL500S filter and M1 0/30 oil. Went for a mountain drive today, and have 802 miles on the clock. Should hit 1K soon. Need to recheck oil level tomorrow, but seems like it hasn't consumed any oil in 800 miles (still at the top of the hash marks), which is great news. I have the 2K rattle (hard to avoid that one), but no 'tick' yet, which is what I hope to avoid too. I can live with the annoying 2K rattle. With excessive oil consumption and the tick, no way. So far none of them in sight, but the true test will be the first oil change. I'm convinced it's not straight 5/20 semi-synthetic oil from the factory in there, but we'll probably never know.
I really doubt that Ford would ever write in the manual something like: "5W30 would be better for the engine, but we must recommend 5W20 for the sake of polar bears". I don't know if the EPA thing is true or not, but even if it were, I'm sure Ford would never admit it openly.
That would make sense if the average temperatures in Europe in the summer were much higher than in North America. But they're not.
Probably best post in this thread... exactly what the people who build the car and engine say use your gas and oil that’s recommended BY the manufacture!Late to the party but here we are again.... another tick, oil, gas thread...yawn. The car ticks, ford says its nothing get over it, no one not a single person in three years has said there has been any engine damage related to the tick. Its inherent dont like it buy a camaro. Its a car with hundreds of moving parts and a rather violent propulsion system. Whats happening inside that engine is just plain violent. And yall want it to sound like a day at the spa.
Oil. Those saying well it says 5w 30 for track so im gonna use that. yes for track. are you only driving it on a track? its not for daily and also states after track use to change back to 5w20
Gas. It is designed for 87 it was engineered for 87. When something is designed for and engineered for then thats it normal operating perimeters. Not sure where people get 87 is bad for it or that the engine pulls something and its hard on it. It was designed for 87. 87 will not hurt or otherwise damage your engine. they recommend 93 not because its better for the engine but because if you want top performance the engine CAN handle it and will make a performance improvement. is it better on the engine.... nope. but you will get a few extra HP out of it and if that negligible hp is really worth the extra 1200 a year in gas knock yourself out. Matter of fact I would argue its worse on the engine. As now you are running it harder and hotter. Just like putting thicker oil in makes the engine work harder so all these people saying its better to use 93 and 5w 30...is it? is it really better? other then your say so and opinion where is your proof? I always see lots of talk and zero proof. Everyone always saying ford doesnt know shit. Or its the epas fault. I like how all these shade tree mechanics know more then a company that basically invented the car and has been in business making cars longer then you been alive. but yes you know more. anyway rant done enjoy the repetitive thread.
Question, I've owned cars that say "premium required". I have not seen any that "require" 93. I would think that would be a problem for anyone where 93 is not available.
OK, understandable as you have a modified car.
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