Engine Tick Preventive Measures

[Jmtoast]

I live in East Texas which gets pretty hot too. What weight does it come with?

If you're tick is DI or pump related no amount of oil changes, weight, or liquid moly will do anything.

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[Vlad Soare]

I just did my first oil change at just under 5000 miles and used a 5w20 full synthetic. Noticed the sound within the first 2 min of startup. So far I have found to be super intermittent, ticks less than it doesn’t.

What I find most interesting is the conflicting info, both from people on forums and from Ford.

Forum posts almost all say 5w20, my filler cap says 5w20, but my owner manual specs 5w30 or 50 for track use.
I will switch to 5w30 on the next change. Likely sooner than later

If it ticks during the first two minutes after a cold startup, then replacing 5W20 with 5W30 won't cure it.

 

[Andy13186]

Only thing that I have found that works is ceratec. Havent tried motorkote though

 

[Kermitz]

I have read through many of these threads regarding the “tick” many opinions and “possible” solutions?

I just did my first oil change at just under 5000 miles and used a 5w20 full synthetic. Noticed the sound within the first 2 min of startup. So far I have found to be super intermittent, ticks less than it doesn’t.

What I find most interesting is the conflicting info, both from people on forums and from Ford.

Forum posts almost all say 5w20, my filler cap says 5w20, but my owner manual specs 5w30 or 50 for track use.
I will switch to 5w30 on the next change. Likely sooner than later

Make sure you throw on a matching 5W30 oil cap.

 

[CrispyChicken8691]

Make sure you throw on a matching 5W30 oil cap.

Yes, probably should ...,maybe Ford could have matched the cap with their manual specs.

 

[CrispyChicken8691]

If it ticks during the first two minutes after a cold startup, then replacing 5W20 with 5W30 won't cure it.

Not really my point. Just pointing out that many here and on other forums post 5w20 as per Ford specs, as well my fill cap. I’ve even read posts saying that using 5/30 could do harm or void the warranty.
Manual says otherwise. So replacing it 5/30 would only be to match what it says, not to cure it.

All that said, it doesn’t make sense that for 5000 miles and up until the change, no tick. New oil and filter....Bam! there it is

 

[Vlad Soare]

Frankly, I'm not sure how trustworthy the manual is. Manuals have been known to contain errors and to be updated at a slower pace than the cars. I wouldn't be surprised if the engine were designed for 5W20 and someone forgot to let the team in charge of the manual know about it. It wouldn't be the first time.
I'm not saying this is actually the case. Maybe it isn't. Maybe the manual is indeed correct. I'm just saying I wouldn't take it for gospel.

 

[Elp_jc]

I think it's on the contrary; engine was designed with 5/30, but Ford probably chose 5/20 in the US due to the EPA, to increase their CAFE standards by a fraction of MPG. In many other parts of the world 5/30 is still recommended... on the SAME engine. There's no doubt 5/30 provides better protection; the only question is if you need it or not. Since it's 100+ for months here in hot TX, I prefer to err on the side of caution vs gaining 0.1MPG, but that's just me . Besides, M1 0/30 is a 'thin' 30 weight, so very close to being in 20 weight range, which probably happens after 1 to 2K miles.

my owner manual specs 5w30, or 5w50 for track use.

Hey, which year is your car? And where do you live? And yes, change the cap, like I did (pic below).

If it ticks during the first two minutes after a cold startup, then replacing 5W20 with 5W30 won't cure it.

Indeed, since both are 5W when cold. That almost proves Ford is using something else than 5/20 as a factory fill. Hmmm. I'm going to use M1 0W30, and see what happens. And no, I didn't find a 0w30 cap, or I'd have bought that instead. Ha ha.

As a closing thought, I really hope I don't have to use any freaking oil additives, because those are NOT approved anywhere. And at least in the case of Ceratec, it'd be absolutely obvious there's something in the oil, due to its creamy color. Not good.

 

[Bikeman315]

Not really my point. Just pointing out that many here and on other forums post 5w20 as per Ford specs, as well my fill cap. I’ve even read posts saying that using 5/30 could do harm or void the warranty.
Manual says otherwise. So replacing it 5/30 would only be to match what it says, not to cure it.

All that said, it doesn’t make sense that for 5000 miles and up until the change, no tick. New oil and filter....Bam! there it is

You were looking at the specs for the 2.3 Ecoboost. Look again. The 50. Coyote uses 5W-20 & 30 for the track.

As a closing thought, I really hope I don't have to use any freaking oil additives, because those are NOT approved anywhere. And at least in the case of Ceratec, it'd be absolutely obvious there's something in the oil, due to its creamy color. Not good.

Liquid Moly brand products have been used for years. I do not recall a single member ever having an issue with a dealer regarding the use of Ceratec. My service manager actually like it and uses it.

 

[Elp_jc]

Liquid Moly brand products have been used for years. I do not recall a single member ever having an issue with a dealer regarding the use of Ceratec.

I was referring to an engine warranty claim. THAT is when it'd most likely become an issue . Having said that, if my car developed that embarrassing tick, and nothing else eliminated it, I'd probably (and reluctantly) use that stuff. I believe those who said it cured it, but I don't know what it's doing to the oil, nor the fact Ford specifically calls not to use ANY oil additive. I'm sure it's thickening the oil, but how much? I'd like to see UOA numbers, and compare them to the same oil but without any additives, at around the same mileage on the oil.

 

[Bikeman315]

I was referring to an engine warranty claim. THAT is when it'd most likely become an issue .

Funny, that’s what I was referring to as well.

 

[Elp_jc]

Funny, that’s what I was referring to as well.

PLEASE! Name ONE person here who has had engine failure and Ceratec, and which dealer approved the work. I didn't think so. And just read again the BS claim you made: 'I do not recall a single member ever having an issue with a dealer regarding the use of Ceratec'.

 

[Bikeman315]

PLEASE! Name ONE person here who has had engine failure and Ceratec, and which dealer approved the work. I didn't think so. And just read again the BS claim you made: 'I do not recall a single member ever having an issue with a dealer regarding the use of Ceratec'.

Calm down JC. That was my point. The great majority of threads on here are complaints. About Ford, about the dealers, about the weather. Do a search and find me someone who had a warranty claim refused for an oil additive. There could be one. I’ve been on here for five years and do not remember one.

Additives like Ceratec do not eliminate the noise, they subdue it. Your lucky, you don’t have it, yet. You might, you may never. But those who do will try anything to reduce it. Ford will not do anything so owners are left up to their own devices.

And if you really need to know exactly how and why it works and what it does to the oil, contact Liquid Moly. I’m sure they would be glad to speak to you.

 

[Zathras]

It'd be nice to get some definitive information on what the tick actually *is* or what specific component it comes from. Does it mean that actual damage has occurred? Does it suggest that the oiling system doesn't "recover" properly (or soon enough) after the oil is drained & refilled?

I used to think the "happens after an oil change" observation might be a red herring, because that's the most likely time when an owner would listen for it. But yesterday I got it immediately after my 2nd oil change (and it definitely wasn't doing it before).

 

[CrispyChicken8691]

You were looking at the specs for the 2.3 Ecoboost. Look again. The 50. Coyote uses 5W-20 & 30 for the track.


Liquid Moly brand products have been used for years. I do not recall a single member ever having an issue with a dealer regarding the use of Ceratec. My service manager actually like it and uses it.

You sir...are correct

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