Creep assist/mode?

[daltron]

And then just tap the gas or apply the brakes for however many miles of stop and go and the clutch gets left out of the equation?

If so, that's amazing!!!

Thanks

-Emt158

Yep, pretty much. It creeps pretty quickly, so you might ride the break or if you need to go faster, then just hit the throttle. When it comes to a stop, rise and repeat.

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[Emt1581]

Yep, pretty much. It creeps pretty quickly, so you might ride the break or if you need to go faster, then just hit the throttle. When it comes to a stop, rise and repeat.

That's awesome! I was dreading my left knee getting sore everyday from the constant maneuvering in rush hour.

One more plus! :clap2:

Thanks for the info!

-Emt1581

 

[BmacIL]

This is one of my favorite 'unspoken' features. It's part of Ford "DNA" for manual transmission cars to increase throttle in response to the load from the driveline from a stop. One of my best friends used to work in feature calibration for gas engines, now is in Ford Performance.

It does not exist on all cars. My last car (Honda) would stall if I tried doing this unless on a downhill. Even the Coyote would not takeoff terribly smooth without this, but could probably manage it.

 

[jasonstang]

This is one of my favorite 'unspoken' features. It's part of Ford "DNA" for manual transmission cars to increase throttle in response to the load from the driveline from a stop. One of my best friends used to work in feature calibration for gas engines, now is in Ford Performance.

It does not exist on all cars. My last car (Honda) would stall if I tried doing this unless on a downhill. Even the Coyote would not takeoff terribly smooth without this, but could probably manage it.

Most manual cars would add gas automatically if the rpm drops below idle.
Is your Honda really old? Could be just lack of torque at idle.

 

[BmacIL]

Most manual cars would add gas automatically if the rpm drops below idle.
Is your Honda really old? Could be just lack of torque at idle.

Nah, was an '09. Very little torque until 5000 rpm lol.

 

[jasonstang]

Nah, was an '09. Very little torque until 5000 rpm lol.

You just have to let out the clutch slower.
You have to slip the clutch for 1-2 seconds before fully let out.

 

[BmacIL]

You just have to let out the clutch slower.
You have to slip the clutch for 1-2 seconds before fully let out.

Still a challenge even when you do that. It'll move without any gas input, but will stumble quickly. It was much smoother with a very small amount of throttle. I don't have the car anymore so it's not a problem. I'm definitely very smooth with the clutch, the engine just didn't make enough torque to move a 3300 lb car well at idle speed.

I'll be re-teaching my wife on my GT (she learned on the Honda, but never practiced), and I'm sure she'll have an easier time.

 

[S550ilver]

Forgot my 16 had the hill assist and after washing in driveway, i though the e brake was on when I went to pull it in the garage to detail. LOL. Have never had a vehicle that had hill assist and still surprises me when it does it....

 

[Bartly]

So I feel like bumping this just say if it was a feature put in there by design I don't think I would have stalled the PP 3.73 version during the test drive. After buying a non PP I think I stalled it twice during the first two days and not since in the last 4 days. Getting used to and more confident every day with this clutch some day I will most likely perfect this skill, if you can call it that. After driving my jeep with the 4.0 (good torque for an old fashion in line 6) for several years I could get it rolling without the gas, but that's just because I could slip the clutch just right. Anyway that's my 2 cents.

 

[dev1360]

Hill assist, torque assist, adding throttle between gears to match shifts....

All annoying things this car does with the throttle. Let ME drive the car. It's why I bought a manual.

 

[kray]

I wish my car had "creep assist" to make the neighbor go away that doesn't like my exhaust!

 

[Horse]

Ford added some nannies to S550. Whether they are helpful or annoying is really up to whoever is driving it.

Personally I don't like those nannies. But I also adapt to my car. One thing that took me almost 2 weeks to learn is that S550 (manual transmission) holds the rpm for the next gear when shifting up, to which I had to adapt in order to make my up-shifts smooth (i.e., you finish an up-shift by lifting the clutch and (only) then by giving some gas).

 

[RetroSkippy]

Seems to me that this "feature" is really just taking advantage of the idle governor. Just like older engines utilized mechanical governors newer engines have software ones. At idle the engine will provide the expected torque to keep the engine idling but if it drops below the engine automatically provides more torque until the speed comes back up. (like a simple PID controller) This is designed to prevent stalling and comes in handy when accessories starting pulling power from the engine. There may be a few exceptions but every manual transmission car should do this as long as it can make enough torque and the engine speed isn't dropped quicker than the governor can recover (letting the clutch out too fast).

 

[ElAviator72]

Don't try creeping in an ecoboost. With a 4 banger and a 750 RPM idle, you will find yourself with a stalled engine in no time :doh:

This was the first 4 cylinder car I owned with a manual transmission that had the idle factory set below 1000 RPM. My last car (1999 Pontiac Sunfire GT, Gen II Quad 4) could creep along in traffic. Of course, it had the factory idle set at 1000 RPM ;) I'm guessing first gear was probably also more mechanically advantaged in the Isuzu 5 speed transaxle that it had...

As for the hill assist, never really noticed it. I actually had the car roll back on me once or twice...no biggie, since I've owned more sticks than automatics in my life and have driven them for several hundred thousands of miles

 

[soldier989]

I noticed that this feature makes it difficult to inch forward, whether its to move through traffic, a drive through, or just to park in a garage and need to inch up. At least in my experience the engine revs to about 1100rpm, which causes the car to lunge forward, more than it would if I were feathering the clutch. Speaking of feathering the clutch, I'm concerned about premature clutch wear due to this feature. If I'm inching up during any situation that requires it, and I let the clutch out slightly then push it back in, the engine revs. This would effectively be burning the clutch a little every time. I know its slight and not as damaging as doing a burnout, but over enough time it will decrease the life of the clutch.

I wish the feature could be turned off. If someone knows a way, I'd like to know.

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