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Are u running a boost reference on your regulator,I'm seeing some guys saying their tuner requires it and others that say set it to 58 and no vacvum.
Yes I am running the boost reference. My pressure is set to 50psi at idle with the vac hose disconnected. I've seen lund tell people to do it both ways....
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Brand new kit available in classifieds for a great price.
 

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Has anyone tried running a single bap on the Sai li twin pump kit he sells.If so did it help any??
 

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Has anyone tried running a single bap on the Sai li twin pump kit he sells.If so did it help any??
I saw a thread where someone did this and it burnt up the fuel pumps pretty fast. The conciseness was to not do it. Ill try to find the thread...
 

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I saw a thread where someone did this and it burnt up the fuel pumps pretty fast. The conciseness was to not do it. Ill try to find the thread...
Ok thanks man.
 

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Yeah.. that guy legit copied Sai. He bought a Sai kit and then started selling his "own" kit a couple weeks later. :crazy:
Actually my kit was out well before his. I was testing it on my personal car before I decided to put it on the market. My kit uses two factory FRCMs to control the pumps the way ford intended it. This has allowed my kit to not burn up pumps, let the fuel not get overheated, and retain the factory safety features that will shut the pumps off in the case of a collision or wreck. When I boosted my car is 2015 I saw the need for a fuel system that didnt have a bunch of problems and every kit on the market has different problems. The twin and tripple kits on the market without a fuel basket require that over 1/2 tank of fuel be in the car at all times or the pump will loose pressure and cause the car to do stupid stuff when coming to a stop or hard cornering, these systems that use basic relays to turn the pump on high speed full time end up burning up pumps pretty quickly, the kits that change the factory "strategy" of how the fuel system is supposed to work require tune changes to make sure the CEL doesnt come on and other problems. Our kit can be put on a stock car with no changes and the ECU will not even know it is in place. NO CEL, no fuel slosh problems, no burned up pumps, no pumps running full blast in a collision, Id say it a win win. My A6 car makes 860rwhp on out mustang dyno, weighs 3900 with me in it and runs 9.4s in the heat all day long. This system has been in place on my car for 5000+ miles with no issues.
 

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Actually my kit was out well before his. I was testing it on my personal car before I decided to put it on the market. My kit uses two factory FRCMs to control the pumps the way ford intended it. This has allowed my kit to not burn up pumps, let the fuel not get overheated, and retain the factory safety features that will shut the pumps off in the case of a collision or wreck. When I boosted my car is 2015 I saw the need for a fuel system that didnt have a bunch of problems and every kit on the market has different problems. The twin and tripple kits on the market without a fuel basket require that over 1/2 tank of fuel be in the car at all times or the pump will loose pressure and cause the car to do stupid stuff when coming to a stop or hard cornering, these systems that use basic relays to turn the pump on high speed full time end up burning up pumps pretty quickly, the kits that change the factory "strategy" of how the fuel system is supposed to work require tune changes to make sure the CEL doesnt come on and other problems. Our kit can be put on a stock car with no changes and the ECU will not even know it is in place. NO CEL, no fuel slosh problems, no burned up pumps, no pumps running full blast in a collision, Id say it a win win. My A6 car makes 860rwhp on out mustang dyno, weighs 3900 with me in it and runs 9.4s in the heat all day long. This system has been in place on my car for 5000+ miles with no issues.

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Are u using the gt350 pumps or the gt 500 pumps??
 

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Are u using the gt350 pumps or the gt 500 pumps??
My kit uses the Drop in kit from a GT350. I believe they are the same pumps as a 13-14 GT500. 310lph I think.
 

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Lund had my tune set up to use the bap so I left it hooked up. Haven't had any hiccups so far. Car runs hard actually might have to pulley back up. I'm seeing 16.4 peak and that's a little too much sauce for the stock block or what I feel safe with.
 

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Lund had my tune set up to use the bap so I left it hooked up. Haven't had any hiccups so far. Car runs hard actually might have to pulley back up. I'm seeing 16.4 peak and that's a little too much sauce for the stock block or what I feel safe with.
U have bap hooked up.to a set of gt350 pumps.
 

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That is another great thing about our kits. You can use the GT350 dual BAP and it is PNP just like hooking it to a GT350.
 

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That's correct. I had it wired without it but car wouldn't start. So I checked the tune file and it said sai li bap. So I said maybe that's why and plugged it up. She fired first crank. So I've just been running it this way. Car has seen 16+ psi and held fuel fine. Pumps showed 34% duty cycle at 7K.
 

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Has anyone tried running a single bap on the Sai li twin pump kit he sells.If so did it help any??
I saw a thread where someone did this and it burnt up the fuel pumps pretty fast. The conciseness was to not do it. Ill try to find the thread...
Ok thanks man.
Yea that's the real issue here guys. To me isn't the whole idea to get off BAPs and have a safe build? I've hated using the BAP with the Procharger Stage 2, because it worries me as a point of failure. I want a simple reliable system not a Rube Goldberg machine. Ultimately I'm not going to miss the extra money between systems as much as I will blowing the engine and doing the crazy amount of work to strip everything down and put it back together again. I expect that it will happen sometime, but I'd rather down the road from wear and tear than from a few hundred bucks saved. In my opinion guys who are more worried about saving hundreds of dollars on a critical component than the stability of the build are probably not in a financial position to do this kind of modding. What happens when you need a new engine?

People have reported failures with BAPs and I've seen other people burn out fuel pumps on other cars with BAPs. My buddy blew his 2JZ up (Supra) when his BAP'ed pump let go during a hard run that included a shot of nitrous. I just went for a Fore dual pump TIA 267 and a new fuel rail, haven't received/installed it yet and will report back on what I think about it once it's in. My goal is stability, not even running E85, race gas / pump gas here, so that's tons of head room for my build.
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