4G Modem Disabling Instructions:

[DougS550]

Not sure why so many are getting so upset. The federally mandated data recorder that acts like as airplane black box collects and stores more info to worry about than what the modem is sending to Ford.

Those box's are pulled and read after a fatality under abnormal driving conditions or obtained by an Insurance company suing the car owner for negligence. Happens all of the time I hear

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[DougS550]

You have 2017 GT350. The modem installation start with 2019.
In my case, I have premium increases from $1.1K/6m to $3.1K/6m for three cars including GT350. When I asked them why, they said it's because my driving history. I don't have incidents or traffic tickets. When I asked them to explain what is my driving history, they didn't give me any valid explanation, just kept repeating same thing. I drive car spirited, I'm not going to give details how spirited. So, I really believe that Ford see my driving habits through Ford Connect and selling to insurance companies(Geico in this case).
I'm going to pull #10 fuse and see it Ford Connect app can't see location of my car.

Hi. Did pulling the fuse work?

 

[DougS550]

The answer Tom was given was correct but incomplete. Yes they do share data, but......as per my post #55, Ford has agreements with some insurance companies to share data if requested and approved by the car owner. They just do not share everyones information with their insurance companies.

Also you could use the 4G modern as a hotspot and not enroll in FordPass. No enrollment, no app, no data sent to Ford. You could also just turn your WiFi off.

And by the way, who actually believes anything Ford says when you call them?

And Heres Your Sign LOL

 

[lo-fi]

Quick question, I've poked around a bit but can't seem to find a definitive answer. What year did this data collection start in our S550 mustangs? 2018 or 2019?

 

[Buldawg76]

I believe it was 2019 that all ford vehicles got the telematics modules.

BD

 

[VoR]

Quick question, I've poked around a bit but can't seem to find a definitive answer. What year did this data collection start in our S550 mustangs? 2018 or 2019?

I could be wrong, but I think if your car has the sharkfin antenna it has the modem for sending data to Ford.

 

[Jaymar]

Easiest way to tell is to just look behind the liner in the trunk.

 

[lo-fi]

Thanks fellas, no antenna, but I'll check the trunk anyways as I found a picture of what it looks like.

 

[drummerboy]

Disabling your telematics does not protect you by any means from being monitored by insurance companies. If it gives you peace of mind them by all means, go for it.

Life moves pretty fast. . . . /Bueller

I don't doubt that this might have been a more common (than now) frame of mind when this post was made, but it does not take a big imagination (today, and especially in the future) to see that preventing the car from sending its data will indeed protect you from that data being used by everyone it is sold to. The OP shows an easy way to disable the 4G (LTE) modem which prevents the car from being able to use it to send and receive data. Good luck! Imagination is the only limit to what we can achieve.

I would add that all the apps on one’s phone collect an enormous amount of data, which is packaged and sold to a whole host of groups, insurance companies included. Geolocation, spending habits, even speed (think some of the maps apps that adjust arrival time based on the amount of distance you are covering, that’s easy to calculate speed from) are all tracked unless you go into each individual app and turn ALL of the tracking off. And even then, I’m not sure it’s entirely off.

Many presumptions about others made here. For instance, all the apps on one's phone need not collect an enormous amount of data. It is, in fact, quite easy (though admittedly unusual) to not have all the to above data collected, sent, analyzed... One might consider that other individuals may have already addressed these issues and wish to also address the new vector their vehicle introduces. Cheers!

Finally got it done this past week. I had a buzz/rattle in the trunk area and had to remove the whole liner and plastic trim piece at the front of trunk, thus exposing the modem. Felt better about unplugging there instead of messing with the fuses.

Agreed, it's a better solution to disable the modem directly - other cars will have different fuses, additional items on the same fuse as telematics, etc etc. Personally, I've since pulled that box out and apart and taken more pics. One day I may get around to making a video showing all of this and also the RF analyzer showing when it sends data, but I stay pretty busy... One day...

 

[DougS550]

Life moves pretty fast. . . . /Bueller

I don't doubt that this might have been a more common (than now) frame of mind when this post was made, but it does not take a big imagination (today, and especially in the future) to see that preventing the car from sending its data will indeed protect you from that data being used by everyone it is sold to. The OP shows an easy way to disable the 4G (LTE) modem which prevents the car from being able to use it to send and receive data. Good luck! Imagination is the only limit to what we can achieve.

Many presumptions about others made here. For instance, all the apps on one's phone need not collect an enormous amount of data. It is, in fact, quite easy (though admittedly unusual) to not have all the to above data collected, sent, analyzed... One might consider that other individuals may have already addressed these issues and wish to also address the new vector their vehicle introduces. Cheers!

Agreed, it's a better solution to disable the modem directly - other cars will have different fuses, additional items on the same fuse as telematics, etc etc. Personally, I've since pulled that box out and apart and taken more pics. One day I may get around to making a video showing all of this and also the RF analyzer showing when it sends data, but I stay pretty busy... One day...

Pulling the side anel is easy, done it at least times for stereo upgrade.
I pulled the fuse instead, no issues noticed.

 

[Buldawg76]

Life moves pretty fast. . . . /Bueller

I don't doubt that this might have been a more common (than now) frame of mind when this post was made, but it does not take a big imagination (today, and especially in the future) to see that preventing the car from sending its data will indeed protect you from that data being used by everyone it is sold to. The OP shows an easy way to disable the 4G (LTE) modem which prevents the car from being able to use it to send and receive data. Good luck! Imagination is the only limit to what we can achieve.

Well so far, my auto insurance premium has continued to go down at each renewal cycle since I got my stang. When I see an increase in the premium, I will go dark.

BD

 

[Paul McWhiskey]

Well so far, my auto insurance premium has continued to go down at each renewal cycle since I got my stang. When I see an increase in the premium, I will go dark.

BD

Consider that waiting to be shot by a thug on the street is the wrong time to begin thinking about getting your concealed carry permit or taking up any form of marshal arts.

 

[Buldawg76]

Consider that waiting to be shot by a thug on the street is the wrong time to begin thinking about getting your concealed carry permit or taking up any form of marshal arts.

Good advice indeed, never leave the house without and have had CCP for 40+ years and practice regularly. Live in free state as well so CCP is for traveling out of state. He who hesitates loses.

BD

 

[Lorne34]

Life moves pretty fast. . . . /Bueller

I don't doubt that this might have been a more common (than now) frame of mind when this post was made, but it does not take a big imagination (today, and especially in the future) to see that preventing the car from sending its data will indeed protect you from that data being used by everyone it is sold to. The OP shows an easy way to disable the 4G (LTE) modem which prevents the car from being able to use it to send and receive data. Good luck! Imagination is the only limit to what we can achieve.

Many presumptions about others made here. For instance, all the apps on one's phone need not collect an enormous amount of data. It is, in fact, quite easy (though admittedly unusual) to not have all the to above data collected, sent, analyzed... One might consider that other individuals may have already addressed these issues and wish to also address the new vector their vehicle introduces. Cheers!

Agreed, it's a better solution to disable the modem directly - other cars will have different fuses, additional items on the same fuse as telematics, etc etc. Personally, I've since pulled that box out and apart and taken more pics. One day I may get around to making a video showing all of this and also the RF analyzer showing when it sends data, but I stay pretty busy... One day...

Good to hear from you and hope all is well. On a side note I am still using the xineering auto blip module at the track and it is working great! If I ever get the Shelby out to So. Cal (route 66 is on my bucket list) I will look you up!

 

[drummerboy]

Good to hear from you and hope all is well. On a side note I am still using the xineering auto blip module at the track and it is working great! If I ever get the Shelby out to So. Cal (route 66 is on my bucket list) I will look you up!

Awesome, glad to hear it. And please do!

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