10HP Loss, Not compression! Real reason exposed with Dyno Proof

[WildHorse]

I think this has been the best and most helpful “10 hp loss” thread I’ve seen yet

But FORD already explained it months ago. Also, most threads end up as I said. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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[young at heart]

But FORD already explained it months ago. Also, most threads end up as I said. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Ford failed to explain it to my satisfaction nor obviously to the satisfaction of many other 2022 owners. Without knowing details it isn’t possible to reverse it.

 

[WildHorse]

Ford failed to explain it to my satisfaction

Nor did anybody else here. You need to rent a dyno, and see for yourself on the before/after. Then it'll be to 'your satisfaction'.

 

[aham23]

While I think the guy doing the video is trying to be straight up, I’m not buying the 18 WHP difference. First of all, he hasn’t controlled all the variables between the two different dyno runs. Im not gonna go through them all but it wasn’t really a scientific test. Secondly, there’s no way an 18 hp difference exists between the cars, at least attributable to the filter. If Ford had minimized the 18 hp difference (more like 20 net crank hp) down to 10 hp and people bought cars based on that, the lawsuits would be flying. You might not feel 10 but you could sure feel 20. Ford is obligated to get it right.

the numbers are close enough to warrant belief that yes it makes a difference and is the reason for the 10 HP decrease. you are getting to literal here.

 

[K4fxd]

Driven over 100 miles so far with no problems. But I do question if this "mod" has any negative effects.

Not on a GT as the "trap" is before the MAF sensor.

On the Mach 1 the tube with the "trap" reduces the MAF tube diameter as shown in the second video. So with the Mach you have to remove the trap and then reinstall the insert or get a tune for the insert being gone.

 

[Coastal-Mach]

Driven over 100 miles so far with no problems. But I do question if this "mod" has any negative effects.

I have over 300 miles since completely replacing the stock air tube with a 20 gt350 tube. No problems at all.

 

[1958cyclist]

I wonder if this carbon trap removal would have the same effect on earlier S550's? Assuming that this part exists in the earlier air intake pathway...

 

[young at heart]

I wonder if this carbon trap removal would have the same effect on earlier S550's? Assuming that this part exists in the earlier air intake pathway...

I‘m certainly no authority and hopefully someone will come along soon who actually knows what they’re talking about. But from what I’ve seen the trap isn’t big enough on previous years to make any real difference.

 

[Bikeman315]

I wonder if this carbon trap removal would have the same effect on earlier S550's? Assuming that this part exists in the earlier air intake pathway...

Yes they did (post 117) and no they don‘t. This was a topic years ago that died because it was found the difference was meaningless.

 

[steathv]

I have a 2022 GT, I purchased a 2021 complete stock intake tract using the rubber tube from the throttle body to the maf tube and the air box. The difference in the two intake tracts is the carbon filter completely covers the inlet on the 2022 air box lid and there is an air straightner inside the tube before the maf sensor. The maf tube diameter is the same between the two assemblies, everything else is identical. The 2021 has the small carbon filter built into the airbox lid but is not a restriction to the airflow.

 

[VelR5.0GT]

I have a 2022 GT, I purchased a 2021 complete stock intake tract using the rubber tube from the throttle body to the maf tube and the air box. The difference in the two intake tracts is the carbon filter completely covers the inlet on the 2022 air box lid and there is an air straightner inside the tube before the maf sensor. The maf tube diameter is the same between the two assemblies, everything else is identical. The 2021 has the small carbon filter built into the airbox lid but is not a restriction to the airflow.

When you say the MAF tube diameters are the same between the '22 and '21, did you actually measure the inside diameter? I am curious due to the insert (airflow straightener). A few millimeters between the two can throw off the MAF readings against the calibration.

 

[2022 Mach 1]

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[Bikeman315]

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Best damn post of the day. Priceless!!!

 

[usdmnotjdm]

Looks like 2022's are back on the menu, boys.

You’re my hero for this.

 

[skinnyb]

Driven over 100 miles so far with no problems. But I do question if this "mod" has any negative effects.

I drove mine 2 days in a row for a combined total of about 250 miles and no issues at all since removing the carbon filter and ripping out the framework that held it. I did leave the air straightener alone however. I matted the throttle a couple times and it felt about the same, no hiccups or wierd issues at all.

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