Cobb got nailed by the EPA

[lo-fi]

You definitely got that half right.

I hear ya. It is hard to remove ourselves from the now and grasp that those coming along behind us might very well see our car ownership as archaic and silly (as I said, I'm primarily referencing urbanites). The present means absolutely nothing in 10 to 15 years. Particularly so within the age of AI we are prepped to enter (I don't consider LLMs AI). If people think the arrival of the internet was transformative, the arrival of AI is going to make that event look like going from a wired to wireless mouse. I think that the 10 to 15 years I stated before is reasonable. If, and I really think it will, generalized AI comes into being within that timeframe historians may talk about all of history in terms of pre-AI and post-AI. Bottom line is that many of the things we hold dear within the here and now could be rendered meaningless to those behind us. This happens, it has always happened, and it will not stop.

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[lo-fi]

I have a Cobb Accesport w/Cobb and EQT tunes on my GTI My fuel economy, when driving in a reasonable manner, is significantly better with the stage 2 EQT tune compared to stock. I would have to think the increased efficiency is more environmentally friendly.

My 2016 Cobb Stage 3 Focus ST got the same gas mileage around town and on the highway as long as I wasn't beating on it. Emissions, well lets just say there was considerably more soot emerging from my exhaust. What that meant, I don't know.

 

[Buldawg76]

Self-driving cars will kill the notion of ownership for many (most?). A fleet of cars circulating throughout a city and no one will care about EV vs ICE. An EV drops out of circulation to charge and then returns. I see no way this doesn't happen unless the people in charge don't want it. 2035 to 2040 I think is reasonable.

It most certainly will be occurring in the future whether it's some fleet owned vehicles or individually owned we will have to wait and see. It is already being researched and developed under the terms V2V and V2X, search those terms and you can read much more about what is being researched for development for the future.

I for one hope I am no longer present for the fully self driving world, just the vehicles now in production with auto pilots scare me since you do not know when it is being used or not on vehicles around you and there has already been several fatalities from vehicles in auto pilot modes now.

I think I will make my truck into a demolition derby style vehicle with big heavy steel nerf bars completely around its exterior like an exoskeleton so I can play bumper cars when needed.

BD

 

[Epiphany]

A politician in California with common sense? Impossible.

 

[shogun32]

People in cities already use taxis and ubers

and outside of NYC which is culturally accommodating of those services, Uber has not changed the degree of ridership. They have just replaced taxis in a 1:1 basis. If for example Uber use was such that within 10 miles of 1600 Pennsylvania there were rarely PoV sighted, I'd say, we're ready for this so-called transition. I don't know what the percentage of ride-share cars are every day over the 14th street bridge but I'd be surprised it was as high as 1 in 1000.

 

[shogun32]

I think I will make my truck into a demolition derby style vehicle with big heavy steel nerf bars completely around its exterior like an exoskeleton so I can play bumper cars when needed.

much more fun to just sneak into your local DOT equipment yard and grab a pile of traffic cones.

 

[Buldawg76]

much more fun to just sneak into your local DOT equipment yard and grab a pile of traffic cones.

Too hard to drive while moving the traffic cones along with me. Much easier to just bump the auto pilot cars out of the way.

BD

 

[K4fxd]

Too hard to drive while moving the traffic cones along with me. Much easier to just bump the auto pilot cars out of the way.

Just tie the cones to your truck, the cones are supposed to cause the self driving car to stop or move away.

 

[MD18EcoStang]

This will never happen because people want the convenience of having their own car

I've met plenty of young people who have no interest in owning, or even driving, a car. I don't get it , but it is a thing and probably makes a lot of sense for more people than you'd think.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Just tie the cones to your truck, the cones are supposed to cause the self driving car to stop or move away.

I love the video of one following a landscaping truck with a tree in the back. It keeps thinking it's about to hit a tree. LoL

 

[lo-fi]

and outside of NYC which is culturally accommodating of those services, Uber has not changed the degree of ridership. They have just replaced taxis in a 1:1 basis. If for example Uber use was such that within 10 miles of 1600 Pennsylvania there were rarely PoV sighted, I'd say, we're ready for this so-called transition. I don't know what the percentage of ride-share cars are every day over the 14th street bridge but I'd be surprised it was as high as 1 in 1000.

I think what will drive people to use self-driving services in large numbers is the lack of human interaction required. Click a button and it arrives by the fastest route, gets you there by the fastest route, and then departs. No chit chat or awkward silence, no "alternative routes", no guess work, plus no possible creepy characters (huge factor for women). Now as more and more of these services come online traffic will start to ease, massively. No bad drivers to ruin your day (just a bot net crash lol). I really think that as this type of system is perfected the allure and positives, within a large city, will far far outweigh the negatives. Combine this with public transport likes busses and trains and our cities become much nicer places to be from a traffic perspective. Does anyone really think our traffic situation within our biggest cities is sustainable for another couple of decades? I don't. EVs ultimately win, just not right now, and I'm good with that.

 

[robvas]

Sounds like some George Jetson shit. Won't ever happen.

Once AI takes over, 90% of people will be living underground like rats.

 

[K4fxd]

EVs ultimately win,

Maybe, but it won't be a battery EV.

Once AI takes over, 90% of people will be living underground like rats.

Skynet will be the end of us.

 

[lo-fi]

Sounds like some George Jetson shit. Won't ever happen.

Once AI takes over, 90% of people will be living underground like rats.

Change is hard, but it is inevitable. Skeptics find change the hardest and resort to calling things "shit" and continue on with the words "never" or "ever" when confronted with an idea outside their comfort zone.

There are people with the education, IQ, and sheer determination working to solve the issues surrounding self-driving cars, and they will. You can bet on it. The problems are identified and they will be solved (the hardest problems may be ethical, such as selecting for least death in an accident). Besides, you had better consider that China doesn't share your lack of vision. They will move forward with exactly what I'm describing whether we do or not.

"I believe in the horse. The automobile is a temporary appearance" - Wilhelm II, Emperor of Germany, 1916

 

[K4fxd]

Jonnie cab, like in Total recall. Socialists utopia.

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