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Throttle House S650 review- first 30 seconds nailed it

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I wonder if Steeda 'fixed' the factory alignment whereas none of the other guys did. Put 2+ deg neg camber up front and proper tires and pressure it may well have behaved "better".

Good on Thomas et. al. shredding the "all new" lies.

The SS/1LE feels like you've got the front axle in your hands - ok, not near as much as a good motorcycle chassis, but you KNOW what's going on up there. The C8 felt remote and imprecise as well - like Thomas said "this thing can rail thru corners, I'm sure of it, but I can't bring myself to try because I have no idea what's going on up there."

Maybe Ford engineers copied the fail of the C8 instead of realizing the best feel is to be found elsewhere?
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Steering feel can be greatly affected by tire tread depth I believe. the less depth the better the feel. These cars have like 10/32nds of tread depth and 1000 miles on them. Probably why pilot cup sports come with like 5/32
 

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I agree, I'm huge fan of steering. Almost pulled the trigger on an Alpine white E92 M3 but read the horror stories with rod bearings and went and bought a mustang. I do like the steering on the Camaro 1LE over the Mustang.
The Rod Bearing issue is overblown. Less than 1% of cars were affected. A lot of it was improper warm up and listening to BMWs ridiculous oil change schedule. The guy that bought my E92 M3 changed the rod bearings out at 65k miles, sold it to him at 38k miles and the bearings were fine. He felt he wasted his money. To be honest I owned 2 E92 M3s neither one of the ever went to the dealer for repairs other than maintenance. My 2013 I owned for 7 years.
 

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I watched some of the video. The part where he is slinging the car back and forth using his fingers reminded me of Chrysler power steering in the 60's and 70's. No feel at all.
 

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I could care less about those morons opinions. They always talk shit.
The video dash and the front end really turn me off. I thought I would get used to the frontend but not yet.

I don't think I could ever get used to the split screens.

When the prices of used cars crash I'll be looking for a mach 1
 

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The Rod Bearing issue is overblown. Less than 1% of cars were affected. A lot of it was improper warm up and listening to BMWs ridiculous oil change schedule. The guy that bought my E92 M3 changed the rod bearings out at 65k miles, sold it to him at 38k miles and the bearings were fine. He felt he wasted his money. To be honest I owned 2 E92 M3s neither one of the ever went to the dealer for repairs other than maintenance. My 2013 I owned for 7 years.
Dang! wish I would have spoke to an owner opposed to reading off the internet. That would've been the pushed I needed. I really wanted since its probably the first/last V8 M3 BMW will ever make.
 

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Raties ride really touched on the fact, the GT would be a ton better with an Tremec and why Ford hasn't dropped it in the GT's. I'm wondering what's the purpose of the dual intakes if the S650 GT's are making the same HP as the S550 Bullitt.
I get where you’re going with this. But the dual throttle bodies allow the gt to make the same power as Bullitt despite having to meet tighter emissions regulations now. It sucks that if we didn’t have to go down on power after the 2021 MY, we’d be making a lot more power from the factory.
 

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I could care less about those morons opinions. They always talk shit.
They are some of the best car reviewers IMO. They are true car enthusiasts that appreciate many different cars. They both own sports cars and Thomas, I think, has a track car. From what I have seen they stay pretty unbiased and try to give positives and negatives from multiple driving perspectives.

They gave the Mustang a lot of compliments and poked fun at the other muscle cars switching to ev or going away entirely. Their main complaint was the steering.
 

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Dang! wish I would have spoke to an owner opposed to reading off the internet. That would've been the pushed I needed. I really wanted since its probably the first/last V8 M3 BMW will ever make.
I only sold my E92 M3 due to the fact my wife lost her job when Covid hit. I had almost $20K in equity for my M3 so I sold it and bought the Mustang. They offered me the car for $4k under MSRP and 0% interest for 72 mos. So I moved forward and got the Stang. I do have an itch to get into a BMW M2/M4 but the sound of the S58 regardless of flavor leaves a lot to be desired.
 

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They are some of the best car reviewers IMO. They are true car enthusiasts that appreciate many different cars. They both own sports cars and Thomas, I think, has a track car. From what I have seen they stay pretty unbiased and try to give positives and negatives from multiple driving perspectives.

They gave the Mustang a lot of compliments and poked fun at the other muscle cars switching to ev or going away entirely. Their main complaint was the steering.
I guess I jumped the gun. This review was pretty fair but some of their other reviews were questionable. Either way I deleted my comment no sense in adding fire for no reason.
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