Ford Performance Tune for 2018+ GT

[Pandajoshy]

Thanks for posting! Can someone break this down and point out the max gains?

From his graph looks like his base run was 417 HP 392 TRQ
After tune/ kit 435 HP 399 TRQ
Overall increase of 19 HP and 7 TRQ

Compared to mine
Base Run 428 HP 407 TRQ
after tune/ kit 433 HP 414 TRQ
i only gained 5 HP and 7 TRQ, but I fall 2 HP short of his but I'm on top 15 TRQ...this is odd.

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[AZ18yote]

Hmm, that's less than what was even advertised by Ford. Something has to be up with the dyno or the way it was graphed? Someone else can chime in I'm sure.

Dave is posting his shortly I believe so we'll be able to compare.

Advertised is crank not wheel. That said would expect to see 12-16whp ish gain over stock based on FP claims. The other dyno posted seems to align with that. Would be curious if tune was pulling timing due to knock or something.

 

[Bowlerguy92]

IM having a hard time understanding why some are saying this is a great buy with two different dynos showing 19 hp and 7lb of torque? On an already 460hp car those numbers are nothing for over 1200 bucks. What am I missing? I seriously really don't feel that big of a difference with this calibration pack. And 7lbs? Where is the 42 ford said it makes? Or am I missing something in the tuner world and 1200.00 plus dollars plus another 450 if you want to keep your warranty and have a dealer install it. typical for 19 hp? and 7 lbs? plus what ever yall paid for dynos on top if that. Sounds like a lot of money for next to nothing to me. And im not talking from the sidelines I have the kit on the car and i seriously dont get the hype or what everyone is so excited over. Im rather disappointed to be honest.

I agree. I was going to pick this up but not after these results. Do we have any other proven options or am I staying stock until the warranty is up?

**Edit** we do need to remember that Ford's claims were at the crank, so in this regard, I think they've actually OVER delivered as those gains are close to probably 30 at the crank?

 

[Pandajoshy]

IM having a hard time understanding why some are saying this is a great buy with two different dynos showing 19 hp and 7lb of torque? On an already 460hp car those numbers are nothing for over 1200 bucks. What am I missing? I seriously really don't feel that big of a difference with this calibration pack. And 7lbs? Where is the 42 ford said it makes? Or am I missing something in the tuner world and 1200.00 plus dollars plus another 450 if you want to keep your warranty and have a dealer install it. typical for 19 hp? and 7 lbs? plus what ever yall paid for dynos on top if that. Sounds like a lot of money for next to nothing to me. And im not talking from the sidelines I have the kit on the car and i seriously dont get the hype or what everyone is so excited over. Im rather disappointed to be honest.

that 42 lbs is supposedly supposed to be at 2000 rpm. which looking at my graph is only a 10-15 lbs increase at 2000 rpm..im not saying that this kit was worth all this money when looking at the dyno numbers, in fact if feel is leaves more to be desired dyno numbers wise, but in my opinion i do feel a difference in throttle response, low end torque, and the shifts are a lot smoother across the board. and for anyone that felt satisfied with the tune/ kit without even knowing these numbers, don't let it discourage you, ignorance is bliss lol. but i do have a problem with Ford advertising that this kit offers +19 HP and +18 TRQ but only really delivered on about half that amount.

 

[Pandajoshy]

he may have a different set up then you each car is different inherently stock. Form the factory there are HP variations. you can take to identical cars from the assembly line and there will be hp variations. 2 hp sounds normal to me.

yeah, the 2 HP difference is'nt odd, but the 15 TRQ seems a little more significant.

 

[Mustangpursuit]

That was with a custom tune. They did a separate video with the Roush power pack and picked up much less gain.

Yeah no wonder heads were spinning in the youtube comments. I had to search for the other video. They should not have done that video and placed it for just for the Roush CAI product alone, but I guess to get more buyers.

So it is around 16+ HP 24+ TQ gaine at 3500 RPM. It may be 93 but base was done also at 93 per AM.

But the odd thing is AM keeps reiterating on product page that it is a tune for 91 only... so they dyno with wrong gas?

and this car had just got to 428/391 in 7th gear vs the custom tuned video.

I had to do some digging..... in the regular CAI product Q/A, So I guess that was a Bama tune that put it at 36+ HP

"The Roush Cold Air Intake was paired with a Bama Performance Custom Tune in the demonstrated video. The Bama Tunes are available for purchase to custom tune for your Mustang equipped with this intake. "

 

[Dfeeds]

yeah, the 2 HP difference is'nt odd, but the 15 TRQ seems a little more significant.

If the tune is knock/octane limited then it's not all that surprising. The torque is what's going to be hit the most on an engine that relies on compression over displacement.


Money aside, let's not forget that this really is just a throttle body and CAI. It is funny to think that the same parts set up on a foxbody would be around $200 or $300. $1,000 for those engines was practically a gold mine. But, at the same time, you're starting with 200 crank HP. Seeing 500 HP out of those engines was practically impossible without boost.

 

[Mustangpursuit]

I am still curious for whoever will do a dyno for the Stock Airbox / Throttle Body with FP Tune? might be better possible to less heat soak?

 

[Mustangpursuit]

IM not sure that would work. The kit comes with a different MAF installed and im assuming that the tune is for it and that the MAF is for the increased 87mm opening. Not an expert by any means but IM not sure the tune would work with the old setup as its made for increased airflow that the new parts allow.

if you look earlier in this thread at Post #447, someone went this route and seems to be doing well, he trimmed the area more to fit on 87mm.

 

[Rpinaiii]

I didnt dyno after the power pack install. But I do feel a difference in my butt dyno. One thing I noticed right after install, I drove and nothing really changed, or it didnt feel like it did, but after a week of driving and getting used to it, I could tell the difference. I have a manual. It seems I had to feel out the car and learn it. But in 2nd gear there is a very good improvement. I dont know how the A10 reacts. For me the kit is fine. I also have suspension mods, tires,.lockout kit etc. So maybe just able to put it down real good where I can actually feel the difference.

 

[AZ18yote]

still puling air through a restricted oem box?

I'd agree with most of your statements except this piece. 18+ OEM cai flows quite well, keeps iats down and offers smooth maf curve.

But that said if going with the kit use it all or return it would make more sense? Though not sure they would allow it but he could make the argument he could not install it lol.

 

[Rpinaiii]

I think this nails it and im hoping for same. by itself its rather meh.. but if you have other mods... IM after the 4.09 gear and im hoping that makes it all worth it.

Cool. I am sure it will make a huge difference as well. I am thinking moving up to 3.73. I have 3.55 gear right now. We can change in calibration.

 

[Dfeeds]

I'd agree with most of your statements except this piece. 18+ OEM cai flows quite well, keeps iats down and offers smooth maf curve.

But that said if going with the kit use it all or return it would make more sense? Though not sure they would allow it but he could make the argument he could not install it lol.

A smooth MAF curve when the stock MAF is paired with the stock set up, which it's calibrated for. Change it up and that MAF curve ain't so smooth. I've read some guys saying that just removing the carbon filter can throw it off.

 

[ihc95]

The lack of gains on top of the fitment issues and loss of 2 years powertrain warranty

 

[schmeky]

Briesbee72,

I appreciate your comments on my logic making no sense when I elected to use my stock air filter set up. Maybe you need to go back and re-read what I posted and why.

First, as I pointed out, the FRPP box did not fit, period. Poorly made, and had gaps that would allow for hot air to enter. So much for an improved CAI.

There is a thread where others have tried multiple CAI's and went back to the stock 18 box. The stock box worked better and made more HP since it does indeed draw in cooler air. Ironically the inlet snorkels on the FRPP CAI and the stock box are the same size.

I removed the "step" down on my stock rubber inlet to throttle body connection so it matches the 87 mm TB very well. IAT's are ideal with the stock box, my car runs very well and I don't care to dick with FRPP on returning a faulty air box and wait while my car sits idle for who knows how long.

It's my car, so I do what works for me.

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