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I guess you got a good one.
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Interesting info...Have a 18 with P-1X running E85, between the tick and oil pump gear failure keeps a guy on edge.
 

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Interesting info...Have a 18 with P-1X running E85, between the tick and oil pump gear failure keeps a guy on edge.

Opg is not an 18 issue....
 

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2019 with a 2k rattle here. I'm interested if all the rattles are "issues" or "part of the car". I honestly don't mind it if it is "part of the car" but if it is doing damage it is obviously an issue.

I suppose when the dealer does the first oil change I'll mention it to them. The car for all intended purposes is running well. Makes plenty of power, no oil use, good MPG's etc.

If his theory is right and it is a "tolerance" problem there is going to be some that make noise that aren't doing actual damage correct? And then some that are making noise because they are so far out of spec. Who knows.
 

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At this point it's a roll of the dice some people get good ones and others have issues, I don't think anyone knows the actual number of cars affected.
 

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The most glaring issue is...

WHY wasn't this found, heard, discovered before JOB1?!

As if they didn't test these Gen III motors like any other pre production?

I guess none of the mules had the "tick'. :angry:
 

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BUT WARRANTY :bandit:
 

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It's all about new technology and a learning process for the company. It seems it's a game of what they are willing to absorb and for what cost. A crap shoot of sorts, managed to the best of their ability...financially that is.
 

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It's all about new technology and a learning process for the company. It seems it's a game of what they are willing to absorb and for what cost. A crap shoot of sorts, managed to the best of their ability...financially that is.
Sure...

But it's called research and development...

They failed on both accounts here.

Can't tell me that not ONE single development car/motor displayed this issue back in lets say 2016/2017 when Gen III was on the birthing table. This shit isn't a over time thing. This isn't a owner abuse/neglect issue. These are BRAND NEW CARS... and A LOT of them are seeing this.

I used to do this stuff in Detroit. I worked on development teams for DCX (at the time) and Ford. We found issues and passed them back up the chain for the $100 haircuts to re-engineer.

Computer simulation and less on the stand/on the road testing is gonna be the death of QA!
 

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Not mass produced, hand built with closer attention to detail. A different facility is doing the process too. That's my guess.
The Ford Romeo Engine Plant has a special line for building the GT350 engines. They have a couple of guys that hand build each engine by hand.

Can't speak as to any quality checks though. I haven't actually been to the line in person, yet.
 

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It's all about new technology and a learning process for the company. It seems it's a game of what they are willing to absorb and for what cost. A crap shoot of sorts, managed to the best of their ability...financially that is.
Not only that, but it's also got to do with adherence to the design specifications and verification of parts before installation.

I've seen quite a few occurrences where the wrong parts were mated/installed in vehicles and it wasn't caught before the cars got to the buyer. ...Or the parts were not machined to specifications, but still passed on.

This happens with every manufacturer that I have worked with. It's a shame that people don't take their job serious, especially when it can make a huge impact on the customer and the manufacturer.
 

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Ford admitted they had a bad run of engines which may be true, but it would appear that they made so many they have no clue which ones were affected.
Where is this “Ford admission” at???? Someone please post up the facts, rather than hearsay...
 

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If the issue was due to “block mix up”, isn’t there part numbers that differentiate a car block and associated internals from a truck block and same internals?

So is the assumption that somehow engines were being assembled wrong at X-location and then shipped to 2 different assembly plants Flatrock (Mustang) or Dearborn (F150)?
 

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Not only that, but it's also got to do with adherence to the design specifications and verification of parts before installation.

I've seen quite a few occurrences where the wrong parts were mated/installed in vehicles and it wasn't caught before the cars got to the buyer. ...Or the parts were not machined to specifications, but still passed on.

This happens with every manufacturer that I have worked with. It's a shame that people don't take their job serious, especially when it can make a huge impact on the customer and the manufacturer.
Did you see the case of the base F-150 shipping with a single Raptor driver seat? No idea how NO ONE saw that before it hit the dealers lot. If something that big can make it through, anything can. If I remember a GT got GT350, or another years tails in one case also.
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