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New Abnormal Coyote Engine Noise? *NOT the BBQ Tick*

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Over the past couple of weeks or so, I've noticed a brand new Coyote engine sound that previously was not heard. It is in no way like that of the BBQ tick (which I have sporadically, and hasn't been an issue), it is a higher-pitched sound that is not random like the tick but seems to be a 1:1 ratio with the exhaust pulse.
This new sound seemed to coincide with an oil change that I got at Ford because before the change I had never heard this before. I just checked my oil dipstick (engine is hot) and found that oil goes all the way up to the FoMoCo logo on the stick, much higher than the top hole on the stick, which from my knowledge should be the hot-fill line.

In the video attached, you can hear the sound faintly, it is much louder in person though. I don't know a source for it, so it's hard to capture the audio over the normal operating sounds. If you listen closely though you'll hear a faint higher-pitched wooping sound, like the exhaust pulses at the end of your tailpipe at idle, a "woop-woop-woop-woop" rather than the BBQ ticks distinct "click-clickclick-click". It's best heard right in the opening of the video, but then I move seemingly farther from the source and it gets quieter. You can also hear this sound as almost an even, not sporadic, clicking with every rev at idle inside the cabin.

Does anyone else have this noise or had it previously and found out what it was? Should I go back to the dealer and demand a new oil change since the last one seems to be vastly overfilled?

I don't know if this is some overreaction, but like I said the noise is completely new to the motor, so I want to see the experiences of some of our more advanced members.

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Ford just released a TSB. Its for your car. Up until April of 2019. Search it in Google. Its the tensioner on the timing chain. Its what it sounds like to me. Then again possibly poor audio for me or anyone to diagnose.
 
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Ford just released a TSB. Its for your car. Up until April of 2019. Search it in Google. Its the tensioner on the timing chain. Its what it sounds like to me. Then again possibly poor audio for me or anyone to diagnose.
Do you have a TSB number? I can only seem to find them on the 3.5L Ecoboost (which my dad should probably read because it concerns him and his F150).
 
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Ford just released a TSB. Its for your car. Up until April of 2019. Search it in Google. Its the tensioner on the timing chain. Its what it sounds like to me. Then again possibly poor audio for me or anyone to diagnose.
I found it on the NHTSA website and it is exactly what I have. The sound got louder on the center-rear portion of my engine cover and I can only really hear it when warmed. There's also a slight clicking sound which I haven't heard before associated with it (not the tick), but I'll have to see what that is.
 

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I found it on the NHTSA website and it is exactly what I have. The sound got louder on the center-rear portion of my engine cover and I can only really hear it when warmed. There's also a slight clicking sound which I haven't heard before associated with it (not the tick), but I'll have to see what that is.
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Here is the bulletin if anyone else has a high-pitched sound coming from their mid engine compartment:
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UPDATE: Called Gary Yeoman to schedule service, informed them what was happening. They didn't care for a TSB number or anything, and they seemed kind of annoyed when I mentioned other stuff, like the dead steering on center (also a TSB). I was told that it was a lot of information and I needed to simply what was happening.
They did manage to schedule me for next Wednesday (the 27th), but I will not have a loaner. If I wanted a loaner, the earliest appointment would've been the 18th of December...
 

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UPDATE: Called Gary Yeoman to schedule service, informed them what was happening. They didn't care for a TSB number or anything, and they seemed kind of annoyed when I mentioned other stuff, like the dead steering on center (also a TSB). I was told that it was a lot of information and I needed to simply what was happening.
They did manage to schedule me for next Wednesday (the 27th), but I will not have a loaner. If I wanted a loaner, the earliest appointment would've been the 18th of December...
Maybe it's an on the phone thing. When people call my shop explaining their haircuts I get pissed because I cant do much lol.
 
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Maybe it's an on the phone thing. When people call my shop explaining their haircuts I get pissed because I cant do much lol.
That's probably some of it. However, if I said that I have TSB numbers (which they have access to), why would they decline?
 

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That's probably some of it. However, if I said that I have TSB numbers (which they have access to), why would they decline?
They probably could, but just take it to someone else.
 

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That's probably some of it. However, if I said that I have TSB numbers (which they have access to), why would they decline?

Probably because that dealer now thinks that any weird noise from a Coyote is the BBQ tick/ 'typewriter' tick, and is 'normal' per the Ford SSM about the BBQ tick.

Yep, try another dealer or convince that dealer that your noise is not the BBQ tick as as described by Ford.
 
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Probably because that dealer now thinks that any weird noise from a Coyote is the BBQ tick/ 'typewriter' tick, and is 'normal' per the Ford SSM about the BBQ tick.

Yep, try another dealer or convince that dealer that your noise is not the BBQ tick as as described by Ford.
Yeah, I'll have to make sure once I'm there. On the call, I particularly noted that this wasn't "coyote tick" and it's more of a high pitched whining sound. I don't have a lot of hope for that though, considering they've failed to do everything on the service documents every time I've been there.
 
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If this email is any indication, then they probably didn't put down anything I told them and they'll just hold my car for 3 hours and release it and say "Yeah looks good."
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So, I dropped my car off on Wednesday at 10am, I told them the about the whining (Again, they didn't care for the TSB to check if it was related), and the high oil level (A little over a half-inch over the max indicator on the stick), and my transmission shifting extremely hard and nearly causing skids.
This morning I got my invoice or the visit and was texted that my car is now ready for pickup. The invoice indicates that the whining noise was not checked, they found that the oil level was within the margin of error, and they simply reflashed my transmission (Which worked for about a week last time, and then the shifting came back even worse).
Not sure what I think of this visit. It is possible that the whining sound wasn't related to the TSB, which is then even more worrisome. Nothing would explain why it suddenly showed up though, and I've never heard it before.
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