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The point is that the refineries have contracts to supply gasoline, diesel, fuel oil, aircraft fuel, etc., tailored to the specific requirements of that customer.

All gasoline is not created equal. Shell, for example, boasts about the cleansing properties of the gasoline at its stations. It requires non-Shell refineries across the country to blend its gasoline to its specifications, to use the required additives.

Shell is one of the companies supplying Top Tier gasoline – fuel that exceeds the minimum standard for detergents. Meeting that standard results in additional costs at the refinery. Chances are the fuel you buy at a discount chain does not meet these same standards.

So the few refineries scattered across the country have to supply a wide variety of customers, many with different requirements.
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Ok, so Shell gas has different additives. I don't doubt that's true, but its still just a marketing angle. Sure sounds good in TV commercials though.

Have you ever heard of an engine rebuilder or mechanic telling someone they should have been using gas with soap in it? Ever heard of a problem with a Mustang where gas detergents would have avoided or fixed it? I haven't.
 

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I work at a major east cost refinery. The gasoline itself is exactly the same between distributors. And we supply all major brands with gasoline. (Shell, BP, Valero, etc.) All gas stations in a region will receive gasoline from the local refineries in the area reguardless of brand. It's not like shell owns a refinery and they only make gas for shell stations. The only difference between the big players and the mom and pop gas stations is the additives the major brands are willing to use in their gasoline.

Yes, but once it leaves your refinery they add detergents and other additives. Not to mention the upkeep and maintenance for the holding tanks at less than top tier stations may not be as well kept, thus allowing contamination of the fuel. There are a lot of things to consider once the fuel leaves the refinery.
 

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Ok, so Shell gas has different additives. I don't doubt that's true, but its still just a marketing angle. Sure sounds good in TV commercials though.

Have you ever heard of an engine rebuilder or mechanic telling someone they should have been using gas with soap in it? Ever heard of a problem with a Mustang where gas detergents would have avoided or fixed it? I haven't.
Actually yes. You can tell when you tear apart an engine just by looking at the valves if a good fuel has been used. The detergents will keep them nice and clean. A fuel without those detergents will allow for buildup on the valves, and combustion chamber.

And why not.. In my area Premium is the same price at Go-Mart as it is a Shell, Valero or Exxon. So, I wouldn't even be saving money by using something that isn't top tier.
 

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Hi guys,

I guess this came already couple of times and I wonder what was the outcome.

I'm originally from Germany and there was no question that you have to use Aral Ultimate 102 (BP Ultimate), if you have a performance car, because it is the best gas available.

Since I'm living in the USA, I ask myself which gas I should use here. Sadly in the Chicago Area all the gas contains Ethanol, even the Premium.

I can't decide if I should use BP Premium or Shell VPower, any suggestions? Couldn't find any reviews yet...
Use at least 91 octane, all Ford high performance engine horsepower ratings are measured using 91 octane.
 

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I won't put anything less than 93 octane in mine when I get it. Especially when I decide to get it flex fuel tuned.

Like others have mentioned, stick to top tier stations. (Shell, Chevron, Mobil, Exxon)
 

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The point is that the refineries have contracts to supply gasoline, diesel, fuel oil, aircraft fuel, etc., tailored to the specific requirements of that customer.

All gasoline is not created equal. Shell, for example, boasts about the cleansing properties of the gasoline at its stations. It requires non-Shell refineries across the country to blend its gasoline to its specifications, to use the required additives. Correct.

Shell is one of the companies supplying Top Tier gasoline – fuel that exceeds the minimum standard for detergents. Meeting that standard results in additional costs at the refinery. Chances are the fuel you buy at a discount chain does not meet these same standards.

So the few refineries scattered across the country have to supply a wide variety of customers, many with different requirements.
Yes, but once it leaves your refinery they add detergents and other additives. Not to mention the upkeep and maintenance for the holding tanks at less than top tier stations may not be as well kept, thus allowing contamination of the fuel. There are a lot of things to consider once the fuel leaves the refinery.
Actually the detergents and additives are added right at the refinery at the blending units. Its the last process before the product is either trucked out to the stations or sent to a terminal for storage.
 

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I work at a Shell refinery. Yes the 87 octane gas is blended to the same standard. The 93 octane is not. So Shell does make gas for shell stations. Just not the low octane.
Well since you work at a refinery. Please explain to me what a Shell refinery does differently than any other refinery on the planet? WhT makes their 93 octane gasoline different? Are they using a secret alkylate that only they can extract? For their high octane gasoline. Some special heptene or toluene that only shell can extract from crude oil? 93 octane gasoline from a shell owned refinery is exactly the same as any other refinery. They are all held to the same standard. They are all tested in a knock lab the exact same way before they are shipped to Customers. Of course a Shell owned refinery makes gas for shell stations in their area. They also make it for every other gas provider in their operating region. Refinery distribution is a regional thing not a company exclusive thing.
 

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Remember that stuff Granny used to drink on The Beverly Hillbillies? She'd add some to the gas tank of that old beat up car and it would go lightening fast.

Ethanol, boys! Ethanol.

I think I remember seeing a dyno run of a stock coyote motor using 87 vs 93. all things looked to be equal and the 93 octane made around 8-10 more WHP.
 

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I don't remember owning a vehicle in almost 20 years that didn't recommend premium octane fuel. I certainly didn't buy a Mustang GT to save a few dollars per tank on fuel expense. Typically use one of the top tier brands and the Pure Gas app on my phone helps me find ethanol-free most of the time when traveling. My Dad told me many years go that "it only costs a little more to go first class."
 

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Remember that stuff Granny used to drink on The Beverly Hillbillies? She'd add some to the gas tank of that old beat up car and it would go lightening fast.

Ethanol, boys! Ethanol.

I think I remember seeing a dyno run of a stock coyote motor using 87 vs 93. all things looked to be equal and the 93 octane made around 8-10 more WHP.
Thats why they call it that. Because your car will be flying high. :lol:
:cheers:

Yeah remember all those WWII movies where the submarine mechanic would pour some whiskey in the tank to get some extra HP. ;)

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