V8 potential problems coming? [ADMIN WARNING: *** NO POLITICS ***]

[AvalancheSVT]

Sounds like the US isn't very worker friendly. In Canada someone with 15-18 years into a company (especially if older in age) would get at least 2 years salary plus (usually in a lump sum payment). In the auto industry you may even get additional funds to help reskill. Leaving a long tenure at a big company in Canada is usually a win-fall for people who haven't over extended themselves.

y'all are telling veterans with PTSD to kill themselves so I'd leave that outta this, bro.

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[Zooks527]

y'all are telling veterans with PTSD to kill themselves so I'd leave that outta this, bro.

Veterans with PTSD, people with long term chronic issues, the deaf (http://tinyurl.com/sjcfbtnu), the poor (http://tinyurl.com/5f8a83zy) and, coming soon, the mentally ill. Yeah, health care to die for.

 

[AvalancheSVT]

hooray socialism! everyone has equity when they are dead.

 

[geep81]

less energy-dense and unreliable ones (wind, solar).

Oh yeah that sun, it's very unreliable.

 

[AvalancheSVT]

Oh yeah that sun, it's very unreliable.

about 11 hours per day have zero sunlight
if there are clouds sunlight is drastically reduced
solar cells have an extremely low efficiency rate

so yes, unreliable is accurate.

 

[luca1290]

hooray socialism! everyone has equity when they are dead.

Well, that's what's going to happen if people continue to ignore the limitations and caveats that reality comes with and keep on thinking that things happens just because they whish it.

Oh yeah that sun, it's very unreliable.

Unless you live before the clouds, your planet does not rotate, and you don't have any problem in consuming vast amount of ecosystem just because the co2 is the only thing you can concentrate upon... yes then I assume is perfectly reliable.

And by the way, you can't store the energy people think you can store, and lithium is a very bad answer to it (extremely low energy density, 4 year lifecycle, then mine and repeat). The better way we have to store energy today is pumped hydro (about 100 years and counting of service life), but you can't make it everywhere and it faces a fierce opposition from environmentalist. Oh, environmentalist.

 

[Torched10]

Well, that's what's going to happen if people continue to ignore the limitations and caveats that reality comes with and keep on thinking that things happens just because they whish it.



Unless you live before the clouds, your planet does not rotate, and you don't have any problem in consuming vast amount of ecosystem just because the co2 is the only thing you can concentrate upon... yes then I assume is perfectly reliable.

And by the way, you can't store the energy people think you can store, and lithium is a very bad answer to it (extremely low energy density, 4 year lifecycle, then mine and repeat). The better way we have to store energy today is pumped hydro (about 100 years and counting of service life), but you can't make it everywhere and it faces a fierce opposition from environmentalist. Oh, environmentalist.

This might have something to do with reducing costs to raise money to pay this

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-f...in-fatal-rollover-of-f-250-pickup-11661033662

 

[Spartan1]

Yup, this is what else I learned. Unlucky employees will get notified they have a 15 minute meeting scheduled with their boss. They are told the bad news, then are escorted out the door.

Or in 2022, the boss puts a meeting notice on your calendar for 3:00 after 3 days off, makes you wait the entire day on pins and needles, then fires you on a Teams meeting.

30 seconds later all your access, email and privileges are removed. I was mistaken, my wife actually worked with this guy for 25 years, off and on, and she was in tears Tuesday morning when his profile/email had been erased from their systems.

These gigs (I work for GM in a corporate retail capacity) are great, they pay well and aren't super stressful, but it can be cut throat, that's the risk we take.

 

[btown93]

Why do these companies never seem to lay off anyone from the many layers of management with mega bloated salaries?

 

[AvalancheSVT]

Why do these companies never seem to lay off anyone from the many layers of management with mega bloated salaries?

because many of the people in charge of that stuff are the useless middle management jobs.

 

[Jerry Carguy]

No, I think what the OP is saying is, our V8s will go along the same assembly lines BUT with more pissed off, distracted, disgruntled employees scared of pending layoffs. Hence assembly line quality, sealants, torque specs, etc. will suffer. I'd guess this will happen, but hopefully Ford QC will scrutinize more carefully. Who knows. Good point OP.

You are spot on! Someone here gets it. And don't forget the 100s of small supplier companies that will also see the effect on their workers. Just imagine, your company makes one special engine component for the V8. Your whole business is structured around that one part. You are the best at it. Suddenly, the rug is pulled out from under you....can't even hide the fact from your employees. Yikes!

 

[Balr14]

I worked most of my life as an IT consultant on contracts. I got real used to having contracts terminated every time there was a little glitch in company earnings (let's save some money and dump the contractors). I worked on contracts for a large insurance company that did this all the time. I worked there a total of 12 years and got dumped 3 or 4 times. Every time they wanted me back, I bumped my rate. If they had kept me around for the whole 12 years, they would have saved themselves about $250k. When I know you are going to pull that crap, you don't get very friendly rates.

That was just one company, there were others. It was a shock the first couple times, but you develop some tough skin after that. You learn to carry everything in your bag, don't get too comfortable and don't make a lot of friends. I also learned to pay for everything in cash, even my house.

 

[FinitePrimus]

y'all are telling veterans with PTSD to kill themselves so I'd leave that outta this, bro.

What? LOL. What does that have to do with labor laws?

 

[AvalancheSVT]

What? LOL. What does that have to do with labor laws?

you want authoritarianism? you want govt controlling labor? that's what it gets you. death.

 

[Weyland-Yutani]

That was just one company, there were others. It was a shock the first couple times, but you develop some tough skin after that. You learn to carry everything in your bag, don't get too comfortable and don't make a lot of friends. I also learned to pay for everything in cash, even my house.

Same with oilfield. In boom times, high school dropouts with neck tattoos can earn six figures with crazy benefits. I’ve never seen more grown-ass men with braces lol. Buuuut….. then the bust comes. The smart guys paid all their stuff off and can ride it out roofing houses or whatever. Other dudes owe on $80k pickups and jetskis etc so they get butthurt. In either case, if they’re good they’ll get called back and can raise their price.

It’s a game. I am unapologetically mercenary about employment.

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