Sai Li fuel system thread

[BMR Tech]

I bought a fore hat. You cant get the stock hats apart very easy to take out the pumps. I am sure it has been done but I would guess most hats get destroyed.

So many variables between blowers, weight, auto, and altitude as to what the pumps can make under load. But as Kelly pointed out he was at 820 ish so I would agree they wont make 1000 on a blower car.

I am putting together a new system as I type this ;)

I am going to go give Justin at Fore a visit here in a few days for some stuff, and also have Sai do some stuff too.

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[sonic]

From experience with a Whipple I can tell you 725-750 is very close on E85 and Id1000 Injectors. You can make more with a BAP but then we have that argument again. If I could start over I would buy the twin 465 pumps and fuel hat and use the stock return line with a -8 feed line. This can be done for around $1100 and then truly capable of 1000hp on blower cars.

When you say stock return line you mean the stock feed line using it as the return?

 

[Reds197]

When you say stock return line you mean the stock feed line using it as the return?

Yes. Use this fitting and plug the stock feed line into the return port on the hat.

http://www.foreinnovations.com/product_p/33-004.htm

 

[sonic]

Yes. Use this fitting and plug the stock feed line into the return port on the hat.

http://www.foreinnovations.com/product_p/33-004.htm

That's a great idea. So having a real return system is not over complicated. Not saying the Sai system is not real lol but the 465 pumps and hat have to be a better option am i safe to assume so?

 

[beefcake]

The biggest down side imo is the non ability to upgrade like south the fore stuff. If you think their is a chance of going built engine and needing a third hat. Your starting from scratch. That's why we got fore to start offering triple hats in the dual pump configs

 

[BDMACH1]

So....I am leaning towards doing a triple pump hat with a pair of 465 pumps in it, with my ID 1000 injectors. Wonder if this will support 800-850 wheel horsepower thru the auto on E85.

 

[zaquhree]

I kept my JMS BAP that I was vested $275 into and will use it in conjunction with this system.

My goal is to clear up the confusion and put some SOLID figures like Kelly did for us behind this system. As well as explore growing with it as the car changes.

I would love a nice Fore system but that wasn't in the cards for me at this time.

 

[beefcake]

So....I am leaning towards doing a triple pump hat with a pair of 465 pumps in it, with my ID 1000 injectors. Wonder if this will support 800-850 wheel horsepower thru the auto on E85.

It would

I kept my JMS BAP that I was vested $275 into and will use it in conjunction with this system.

My goal is to clear up the confusion and put some SOLID figures like Kelly did for us behind this system. As well as explore growing with it as the car changes.

I would love a nice Fore system but that wasn't in the cards for me at this time.

With what you could have sold the jms for you would be about the same $ invested with the fore set up

 

[zaquhree]

Yeah I had the JMS sold for $350 but decided to keep it vs buying another so that skews my investment. I may not need it but at this point I'd rather keep it just in case :headbonk:

 

[beefcake]

Yeah I had the JMS sold for $350 but decided to keep it vs buying another so that skews my investment. I may not need it but at this point I'd rather keep it just in case :headbonk:

I meant you wouldn't need the jms with the fore set up

 

[Reds197]

The other thing to think about is no filter with Sai's feed line. You are only using the filters on the pump. It's an added benefit of the Fore kit. My numbers were SOLID enough it would not support 15 psi with a Whipple. I had 2 tuners tell me I am out of fuel.

 

[zaquhree]

The other thing to think about is no filter with Sai's feed line. You are only using the filters on the pump. It's an added benefit of the Fore kit. My numbers were SOLID enough it would not support 15 psi with a Whipple. I had 2 tuners tell me I am out of fuel.

I think you're getting offended but it isn't directed at you :shrug:

I am implying I will put up details of boost and power along with how the system keeps up for others to use to their advantage to decide this vs fore. I don't see myself going past 850-900rwhp with this car for a while. I plan on 700 daily 800-850rwhp for Mexico and the track

 

[BDMACH1]

From experience with a Whipple I can tell you 725-750 is very close on E85 and Id1000 Injectors. You can make more with a BAP but then we have that argument again. If I could start over I would buy the twin 465 pumps and fuel hat and use the stock return line with a -8 feed line. This can be done for around $1100 and then truly capable of 1000hp on blower cars.

Hey Curtis....how big is the factory feed line on our cars?


Bob

 

[Reds197]

Hey Curtis....how big is the factory feed line on our cars?


Bob

3/8

 

[PowerAdderGT]

Hey Curtis....how big is the factory feed line on our cars?


Bob

Do you need to buy a Fore controller (FC2/3) with this setup.

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