Replaced Voodoo Engine

unknown internal failure, oil consumption, blown block, damaged valve train etc.


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johnny1

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But hears the thing. Since Ford won't let us know what causes our engines to be replaced because of excessive oil consumption there is no way of knowing if its a simple engine repair such as valve guide seals etc. Instead you have to go to a Ford dealership service that more than not have no idea about the GT 350 and have a complete engine replaced and in more cases than not takes forever to get car back and you can only pray they do it right and don't mess some thing else up with your car in the process. When Ford could simply have mechanics at dealerships within a specified area that are specially trained to go into the voodoo engine to see if problem can be fixed first. And Ford could most likely save a bunch of money in the process. Yes its nice that Ford will give us a new engine. But it would be a whole lot better if we could take it to a dealership that has a trained mechanic on the voodoo engine to be the only one to open it up and see if it could be repaired properly without replacement.
 

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Update on my motor. I stopped by the dealer and discovered that I not only had the intake valve issue, but also the main bearings are showing significant wear. They are not allowed to take the heads off, so speculation is perhaps a deformed or dislodged valve seat. Again, this is conjecture.

The main bearings however, was a huge surprise to me. I'm religious about adding oil even though the oil consumption is imo abnormal. I never let it get to the lower mark. I would speculate again that this is an oil starvation issue since it shows wear across all of them. It could potentially be bad tolerances as well. This is pretty sad.

I read the engineering response from Ford and it stated that no engineering changes have been made to the motor and that it likely was a careless customer not checking oil. It really put me back when I read that. They don't seem to be owning up to it or its all in secrecy as some of you guys have stated that the oil pan has been revised twice.

I will see what I can observe in terms of part numbers when the new motor arrives.
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Unless I'm reading this wrong, they're replacing valve springs, not entire engines...
Yeah, and they at least have identified the issue, localized it to a range of vehicles and proactively announced a recall to take care of it.
 

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Update on my motor. I stopped by the dealer and discovered that I not only had the intake valve issue, but also the main bearings are showing significant wear. They are not allowed to take the heads off, so speculation is perhaps a deformed or dislodged valve seat. Again, this is conjecture.

The main bearings however, was a huge surprise to me. I'm religious about adding oil even though the oil consumption is imo abnormal. I never let it get to the lower mark. I would speculate again that this is an oil starvation issue since it shows wear across all of them. It could potentially be bad tolerances as well. This is pretty sad.

I read the engineering response from Ford and it stated that no engineering changes have been made to the motor and that it likely was a careless customer not checking oil. It really put me back when I read that. They don't seem to be owning up to it or its all in secrecy as some of you guys have stated that the oil pan has been revised twice.

I will see what I can observe in terms of part numbers when the new motor arrives.
IMG_20181102_170325.webp
IMG_20181102_170332.webp
I'd be so pissed if I were you.
 

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Update on my motor. I stopped by the dealer and discovered that I not only had the intake valve issue, but also the main bearings are showing significant wear. They are not allowed to take the heads off, so speculation is perhaps a deformed or dislodged valve seat. Again, this is conjecture.

The main bearings however, was a huge surprise to me. I'm religious about adding oil even though the oil consumption is imo abnormal. I never let it get to the lower mark. I would speculate again that this is an oil starvation issue since it shows wear across all of them. It could potentially be bad tolerances as well. This is pretty sad.

I read the engineering response from Ford and it stated that no engineering changes have been made to the motor and that it likely was a careless customer not checking oil. It really put me back when I read that. They don't seem to be owning up to it or its all in secrecy as some of you guys have stated that the oil pan has been revised twice.

I will see what I can observe in terms of part numbers when the new motor arrives.
IMG_20181102_170325.webp
IMG_20181102_170332.webp

So your dealer is tearing down the motor a little? They took the pan off and rod caps off? I thought they're not allowed in at all.
 

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BTW, if Ford truly thought this was lack of oil, THEN THEY WOULD DENY THE WARRANTY! I don't understand why so many more motors aren't being denied because low/no oil is not their fault. It says that right in the warranty. So I assume they either know stuff is not up to par or they are just being super nice to avoid bad publicity. But if that were the case, why be so secretive about what's going wrong?

Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K
 

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BTW, if Ford truly thought this was lack of oil, THEN THEY WOULD DENY THE WARRANTY! I don't understand why so many more motors aren't being denied because low/no oil is not their fault. It says that right in the warranty. So I assume they either know stuff is not up to par or they are just being super nice to avoid bad publicity. But if that were the case, why be so secretive about what's going wrong?

Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K
Maybe the oil is pinned to one side of the pan or the other in curves and the engine sucks air every now and then.
 

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Maybe the oil is pinned to one side of the pan or the other in curves and the engine sucks air every now and then.
Possible...maybe...but dang, with 10 quarts sloshing around, it doesn’t seem likely.
 

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Update on my motor. I stopped by the dealer and discovered that I not only had the intake valve issue, but also the main bearings are showing significant wear. They are not allowed to take the heads off, so speculation is perhaps a deformed or dislodged valve seat. Again, this is conjecture.

The main bearings however, was a huge surprise to me. I'm religious about adding oil even though the oil consumption is imo abnormal. I never let it get to the lower mark. I would speculate again that this is an oil starvation issue since it shows wear across all of them. It could potentially be bad tolerances as well. This is pretty sad.

I read the engineering response from Ford and it stated that no engineering changes have been made to the motor and that it likely was a careless customer not checking oil. It really put me back when I read that. They don't seem to be owning up to it or its all in secrecy as some of you guys have stated that the oil pan has been revised twice.

I will see what I can observe in terms of part numbers when the new motor arrives.
IMG_20181102_170325.webp
IMG_20181102_170332.webp

Holy crap! How did you get the photos of the bearing and crank? Ford does not allow to crack open the motor if you want a warranty replacement. Damn!
 

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Your missing the point! All manufacturers have failures. And some to larger scale than others. Doomed!
Unless I'm reading this wrong, they're replacing valve springs, not entire engines...
 
 
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