Replaced Voodoo Engine

[AdamIsAdam]

I don't think you can buy back the bad core. Several have tried and the dealer was told if they don't return core, that Ford won't pay for the engine.

 

[Zitrosounds]

I don't think you can buy back the bad core. Several have tried and the dealer was told if they don't return core, that Ford won't pay for the engine.

Sure. But I know at least one that did. As I said he is on the FB group.

 

[jvandy50]

Sure. But I know at least one that did. As I said he is on the FB group.

are you gonna say who? because i've never seen it either. i thought that was a big no-no

 

[Zitrosounds]

are you gonna say who? because i've never seen it either. i thought that was a big no-no

Its on FB LOL Track Shelby GT350's join the group.

 

[honeybadger]

I think they're OK with some buying back the older cores now since they're moving to the new block. Pretty badass

 

[Lorne34]

I think they're OK with some buying back the older cores now since they're moving to the new block. Pretty badass

The new block is badass? I am wondering if the 2019's will be more stable or is the engine block not going to improve things in terms of reliability?

 

[Muligan]

^^^ There you go. Many opt for the 8 or 10 year warranty. The only problem with the warranty when it comes to an engine issue is that Ford replaces (not repairs) engines. On a regular 350, not a big deal. On a more rare R, numbers matching is important. On an extremely rare car, like a base R, numbers matching is extremely important IMHO.

I agree with Tom on this one. JR265 and its original engine are not going to be separated - ever. I do have an 8 year ESP warranty, and would only consider a replacement engine if I were able to purchase all that is not used in the replacement - basically a long block from what I understand, so that I could rebuild and store with the car. If that isn't possible, then I will repair the original engine myself. Given the minimal amount of miles I'll be putting on the car (only 301 miles in the past year), it's likely that I won't put enough mileage on the car to see any issues before the warranty expires, anyway.

 

[AdamIsAdam]

I agree with Tom on this one. JR265 and its original engine are not going to be separated - ever. I do have an 8 year ESP warranty, and would only consider a replacement engine if I were able to purchase all that is not used in the replacement - basically a long block from what I understand, so that I could rebuild and store with the car. If that isn't possible, then I will repair the original engine myself. Given the minimal amount of miles I'll be putting on the car (only 301 miles in the past year), it's likely that I won't put enough mileage on the car to see any issues before the warranty expires, anyway.

So that's like one quart per year. No biggie

 

[DCShelby]

301 in a year? Damm go drive that thing. Just got my car back today. I looked over the engine bay, connectors, hoses, and body. It all looked fine and is running great. So this weekend I’ll start the break in procedure.

 

[AdamIsAdam]

Car and Driver long term test - Oil Consumption

Did anyone read this month's Car and Driver long term test where they recap the oil consumption? What happened to them is what I've noticed to be somewhat of a pattern with these cars:

Car runs fine for x miles, in their case, 14k miles. They changed the oil at 7k and again at 14k. They drove it easy for the first 1k until broken in, then drove it like, well, like they are C&D testing cars. And then a few hundred miles after that second oil change, they are down 2 quarts. After that, they seem to use a quart every 1k miles for the next 25k miles pretty consistently. (And let's assume the dealer filled it with 10 qts during the oil change.)

So, I can't help be wonder, did they do damage when they were 2 qts low which, from then on, increased oil consumption?

Of course, they were 2 qts low in a few hundred miles, so that needs to be explained. They do not mention how often they checked the oil, but clearly, they checked it somewhat regularly after that point. So let's assume they checked it regularly and were never low until one day they were 2 qts low. Right there, I call foul on the play. Unless you are running flat out on a Cannonball run for 3,000 miles, how do you EVER just suddenly get 2 qts low unless you are not checking it often enough (at least for this car). If something broke like a valve seal or piston ring, then ok, but the consumption from then on was 1 qt per 1k miles. I think DCShelby or someone else here said their car went from not using oil to suddenly using it, but at an ever increasing rate, which tells me something broke.

I hope this never happens to me, or anyone else ever again for that matter, but I can't help but wonder if the situation is made worse by letting the motor get 1, 2, 3 FIVE quarts low? With 10 qts in the pan you wouldn't think so, but who knows.

Thoughts?

 

[jvandy50]

Its on FB LOL Track Shelby GT350's join the group.

I'm in it lol...just missed it. Found it now though and Holy shit I can't believe he got to buy it back!! What a steal

 

[rick81721]

Car and Driver long term test - Oil Consumption

Did anyone read this month's Car and Driver long term test where they recap the oil consumption? What happened to them is what I've noticed to be somewhat of a pattern with these cars:

Car runs fine for x miles, in their case, 14k miles. They changed the oil at 7k and again at 14k. They drove it easy for the first 1k until broken in, then drove it like, well, like they are C&D testing cars. And then a few hundred miles after that second oil change, they are down 2 quarts. After that, they seem to use a quart every 1k miles for the next 25k miles pretty consistently. (And let's assume the dealer filled it with 10 qts during the oil change.)

So, I can't help be wonder, did they do damage when they were 2 qts low which, from then on, increased oil consumption?

Of course, they were 2 qts low in a few hundred miles, so that needs to be explained. They do not mention how often they checked the oil, but clearly, they checked it somewhat regularly after that point. So let's assume they checked it regularly and were never low until one day they were 2 qts low. Right there, I call foul on the play. Unless you are running flat out on a Cannonball run for 3,000 miles, how do you EVER just suddenly get 2 qts low unless you are not checking it often enough (at least for this car). If something broke like a valve seal or piston ring, then ok, but the consumption from then on was 1 qt per 1k miles. I think DCShelby or someone else here said their car went from not using oil to suddenly using it, but at an ever increasing rate, which tells me something broke.

I hope this never happens to me, or anyone else ever again for that matter, but I can't help but wonder if the situation is made worse by letting the motor get 1, 2, 3 FIVE quarts low? With 10 qts in the pan you wouldn't think so, but who knows.

Thoughts?

Related, someone posted this to me on another board. R&T long-term test update - they are over 40K on theirs and have added 21.5 qts of oil

 

[rick81721]

301 in a year? Damm go drive that thing. Just got my car back today. I looked over the engine bay, connectors, hoses, and body. It all looked fine and is running great. So this weekend I’ll start the break in procedure.

Did they tell you if this is a "2019" motor? Also, were you offered a Ford extended warranty? Mine might be ready for pickup tomorrow.

 

[MNGT350]

Related, someone posted this to me on another board. R&T long-term test update - they are over 40K on theirs and have added 21.5 qts of oil

i think it's quite telling that both the C&D and R&T long term cars were drinking oil. It's good I guess, that kind of press pushes Ford more for a response than a bunch of internet posts.

 

[Alain]

I am leaning towards waiting another year to get one of these cars. This oil issue is really unsettling.

What amazes me is that despite the wide knowledge of these engines having issues, these cars are still selling.

I do agree that this type of press from car and driver and road and track will more likely than not force Ford to step up with some sort of announcement. Other than a supplemental to the owner’s manual saying that the car might consume oil due to aggressive use.

I’m mot a buyer this year. Hopefully the new block from the 500 offers some sort of relief. Even though the block has probably nothing to do with the oil consumption.

If I know big corporate business, Ford will try to save its ass and there will probably be more parts than just a new block for the 2020 GT350.