Replaced Voodoo Engine

Discussion in 'Shelby GT350 Mustang' started by S550VIN54, May 22, 2018.

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unknown internal failure, oil consumption, blown block, damaged valve train etc.

  1. Excessive Oil Consumption

    45.6%
  2. Main Bearing

    12.3%
  3. OPG (Oil Pump Gear)

    5.3%
  4. Blown Block

    7.0%
  5. Valve Train Failure

    7.0%
  6. Other

    22.8%
  1. JR369

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    #1741 JR369, May 17, 2019
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    Ford took the "risk" of 5 years Voodoo production...and didn't stick with a lot of other engine options that were considered bulletproof for more than 2 production years. Ok.
     
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    I didn't mean to insinuate Ford would own up to it. I meant that is we all listed the years of the cars that had failures, and the engine block years, we might be able to figure out if there was a point where the problem was fixed. In that case, a buyer could look for a specific model year, or block year in case of a replacement, and buy with some confidence that the early issues were mitigated. For instance, if the 19MY vehicles don't have the oiling or bearing issues like the 17MY cars did, the community as a whole could purchase with the knowledge that their fear of engine failure was reduced.
     
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    OMG! Ferrari had crank shaft failures in an N/A flat plane crankshaft engine? Say it isn't so? UNACCEPTABLE! of all cars the HALLOWED last of its kind 458 Italia.
    How could they! Ferrari sucks! more than 200+ cars required a new crankshaft or a new engine. how many California's and 458's where produced? imagine the failure rate for that?
    BAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a21834/ferrari-crankshaft-recall-35174/
     
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    This thread has not surprisingly gotten fucking ridiculous.
     
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    You are one of the reasons why I made the above comment. I waited too long and now decided you’re not worth reading because of your constant negativity. Blocked.
     
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    That clown is a troll and fake "ex-owner". Best to just ignore
     
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    My thoughts on this is that they haven't yet disclosed any reliability issues, even though there is ample proof of there being one. The other engines you've mentioned in your post didn't have as many reported issues. Perhaps this 5.2 engine is the product of forcing improvement of performance in each generation of Mustang whereby reliability is being sacrificed?
     
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    "ample" proof? Where is it????? LOL
     
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    FWIW a friend of mine is getting his 5.0 replaced for oil consumption in his truck. From his conversations with his service department it sounds like Ford is having this issues with the 5.0s as well.
     
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    What year is the truck?
     
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    Hmm, went to the PWTA process on the 5.0 cylinder liners as well.
     
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    Engine replaced due to oil consumption.

    Compression and leak down test showed a loss of 40% in cylinders 1 and 2. Cylinder 3 25%.
     
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    Well I am on the blown block replacement. Hole by the oil pan next to number 3 I believe. Tear-down was done by Ford, but I have not received a official answer, just I'm get a new engine. I plan on going down there later this week to see for myself cause.

    I have also heard about the 18 5.0 trucks having issues, as well as the 5.0 cars. The BQQ tick is what its being called ? Not sure how many issues there it has caused.
     
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    6929 miles

    Sequence of events:
    • Oil consumption started increasing from 1000 to 500 to 250ish these past two weeks.
    • My oil pressure was rapidly fluctuating between 70 and 80 PSI on a road trip Monday
    • Car felt down on power this morning
    • Got on the freeway and started hearing a knock at 3k RPMs
    • Oil pressure dropped to 25 PSI
    • Total loss of power then oil pressure dropped to 0, all the lights lit up
    • Car struggles to restart then dies immediately after
    • Found oil dripping from the back of the engine
    A few questions:
    • I am asking for a long block engine replacement as that is what Ford Performance recommends for any internal engine issues
    • Asking for a KR3Z-6006-B as it is the latest long block replacement P/N (supposedly the new 2019+ GT350 engine)
    • Asking for a replacement oil cooler or at the minimum a very thorough flush
    • Will the replacement engine include its matching engine builders plate? I have read some have received a replacement engine with the builder names. I really want to push on this as what is the point of having the old builders plate on there if it is not correct.
    • The replacement engine will be blank where the VIN typically goes. I read somewhere on here that someone paid for the tech to stamp it to match the chassis. Does anyone remember what the cost is for that?
    • 7 year/100k warranty due to the replacement engine, do I push for that through the dealer or Ford service?
    I plan on keeping the car as Grabber Blue is pretty much the only color I would want and no more new ones exist (mine was the last). I would entertain getting a GT500 in Grabber Blue if that ever happens.
     
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    In getting a long block, they take intake off the old motor and put it on the new one, so yes you keep the builder plate. You get what they give you..I doubt your request for the latest block works. If yours failed to to ring or rod issues and metal bits scattered in the motor, pretty sure you get new oil coolers and lines.
     
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    So the builders plate will not match who built the new engine because they just reuse the old one?

    Just found out a Voodoo is available in our local parts depot so that sounds like the engine I will get.
     
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    The builder plate from my original motor in on my new motor. Hopefully I didn't jinx the new motor :) :) :)
     
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    #1760 GrabberBlue, May 30, 2019
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    That sucks.
    *Random person* What are those signatures on your engine?
    *Us* The people who built the original motor
     
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