Replaced Voodoo Engine

unknown internal failure, oil consumption, blown block, damaged valve train etc.


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We all got new 2019 long blocks but they switch over the original intake manifold along with other bits. It would be interesting to see and find out what happens the the first long block that gets sent back to Ford. I assume they take them apart to find out why they went bad and that’s how they came up with the 2019 updates. I don’t think we have any 2019 failures based on oil consumption. Mine was put in in late January 2019 so it’s possible I’ve got one of the earliest ones. They told me my engine was taken from a 2019 build assignment.
tech took mine apart and found main bearing and ring was bad cylinder 4
 

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what was it doing- consuming oil?
At 1500 miles it was a quart per 800-1000. At 20k it was down to 325 per quart. Right before they changed the motor it was a quart every fill up. I was expecting it to expire at any moment.
 

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They have extended some warranties for those that have had issues. But I can’t imagine any manufacturer extending a warranty to the 100% when maybe only 1% have experienced a major issue. Perhaps if more failures keep happening and Ford loses a class action lawsuit.

You can shop around for extended warranties online (Ford warranties) but I’ve seen low mileage premium care ones for $1200-2000 depending on how many years.

The standard powertrain is 5yrs 60K though and that covers most buyers.
. I don't get this logic. Porsche did it, as I pointed out... And this wasn't because people were blowing engines.

I haven’t heard of more than a couple of complaints about the gen 2 voodoo. It’s probably going to have a long life, relatively speaking. Early M156 motors actually had a ton of problems, probably more than gen 1 voodoo. Many new performance motors do and the issues are fixed with small updates, just like the voodoo.
The gen2 is way too young for us to know, and yeah man I totally agree I hope it fixes the issues so I can buy a 2019 in a couple years. I love these cars.

Regarding the rest... Yeah that's exactly what I said. I expect these types of engines to have issues. You're missing my point. I want to know what they are.

M156s didn't and don't have worse issues than the voodoo by any means. You aren't spinning bearings or blowing holes in blocks. They had weak headbolts in the original design and blew some HGs (which MB addressed in a technical bulletin and didn't hide, I might add). All of them beat up intake cams because of the flat tappet design and the materials used, but that's prevalent in many flat tappet engines. This happens with miles and tons of wear, it's not necessarily an inherent issue like we are seeing with these Voodoos. Regardless, this won't result in a blown engine... Just new cams. Still a PITA. But not nearly what we are seeing with voodoos.

Again... I'm not hating on these cars or this engine, I love it. I just don't understand how neither Ford nor the aftermarket has shed any light on what's going on.
 

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Ha! One here local to me in Dallas/Ft Worth. I will wait to post up their name until this is said and done. Glad you got the correct goods though.
Was it Grapevine Ford. That is where I bought mine. Mine was burning a qt per 500 miles
 

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. I don't get this logic. Porsche did it, as I pointed out... And this wasn't because people were blowing engines.



The gen2 is way too young for us to know, and yeah man I totally agree I hope it fixes the issues so I can buy a 2019 in a couple years. I love these cars.

Regarding the rest... Yeah that's exactly what I said. I expect these types of engines to have issues. You're missing my point. I want to know what they are.

M156s didn't and don't have worse issues than the voodoo by any means. You aren't spinning bearings or blowing holes in blocks. They had weak headbolts in the original design and blew some HGs (which MB addressed in a technical bulletin and didn't hide, I might add). All of them beat up intake cams because of the flat tappet design and the materials used, but that's prevalent in many flat tappet engines. This happens with miles and tons of wear, it's not necessarily an inherent issue like we are seeing with these Voodoos. Regardless, this won't result in a blown engine... Just new cams. Still a PITA. But not nearly what we are seeing with voodoos.

Again... I'm not hating on these cars or this engine, I love it. I just don't understand how neither Ford nor the aftermarket has shed any light on what's going on.
To get the level of performance and enjoyment from a Porsche you will spend a ton more money and still never be able to replicate the sound of the Voodoo. With brand new 18-19 GT350’s selling for $5-10K off MSRP just invest $2K or so in an extended 100k mike warranty if the reliability concerns you. Your still likely under $60K. What better options are there out there for under $60K??
 

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Need some input from the group. I Have a 2017 GT350R. Was at the track and the engine made a terrible wacking sound, low oil pressure warning came on and the engine just died. Towed it to the dealer and will have them look at it after the weekend.
I haven’t read this entire thread but was wondering if this is consistent with other failures and what the culprit is? Engine is stock and never been tuned.
 

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She’s dead Jim....get it towed to the dealer for a new engine.
 

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Need some input from the group. I Have a 2017 GT350R. Was at the track and the engine made a terrible wacking sound, low oil pressure warning came on and the engine just died. Towed it to the dealer and will have them look at it after the weekend.
I haven’t read this entire thread but was wondering if this is consistent with other failures and what the culprit is? Engine is stock and never been tuned.
Damn dude. Sorry to hear that.
 

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My guess another dropped valve or oil starvation led to seized rotating parts. I wonder what the failure rate is for track-going Voodoos.
 

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Need some input from the group. I Have a 2017 GT350R. Was at the track and the engine made a terrible wacking sound, low oil pressure warning came on and the engine just died. Towed it to the dealer and will have them look at it after the weekend.
I haven’t read this entire thread but was wondering if this is consistent with other failures and what the culprit is? Engine is stock and never been tuned.
Seems pretty consistent. I doubt you will have an issue getting it replaced as long as you kept up with maintenance.
 

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LOL! "My grandmother and I had just pulled out from the Senior Sunday Brunch at Shoney's when I heard an awful sound!" :giggle:
That sound wasn't the car. It was either you or granny. It results from eating at Shoney's. Now they question is, are you going to take the hit or blame it on granny?
 
 
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