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Safe to say whoever taught you this doesn't know squat about cars.I was always taught
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Safe to say whoever taught you this doesn't know squat about cars.I was always taught
The thing you have to be careful of, is the type of seat that the wheel has for the nut. Most aftermaket wheels will have a 60 degree conical seat. Ford OEM wheels use what is called a Bulge Cone seat. Same 60 degree angle, just a larger surface for the nut to engage.So do lug nuts really make that much of a difference whether they are on stock wheels or aftermarket wheels?
I guess all I am really after is replacing the stock 2 piece lugs with a 1 piece steel set for stock rims.
And Chrysler, and Tesla, and GMPrecisely, every modern ford/lincoln that uses the 14 mm studs are specced at 150 ft lbs. That includes the edge/nautilus, f150, mustang, explorer/aviator, ranger, bronco, and so on. What's so hard to understand about that?
... wife would have let me put black nuts on ... but she wanted chrome.
Even by hand, other conditions will make the stock lugs swell though. Winter driving, if you’re removing the wheels a fair amount, etc. I only remove/put on lugs by hand, never use an impact and my stock lugs still swelled up on me. It’s really just a shitty design.If you want to save your stock lugs or aftermarket lugs for that matter, break them loose by hand before using the impact gun to remove. For installation, I use the impact on a light setting to run the lugs down, then a torque wrench for final torque. 150 ft/lbs is brutal to remove or install using an impact gun.
Yep...if you are dealing with harsh winter/salt conditions they will not survive.Even by hand, other conditions will make the stock lugs swell though. Winter driving, if you’re removing the wheels a fair amount, etc. I only remove/put on lugs by hand, never use an impact and my stock lugs still swelled up on me. It’s really just a shitty design.
Anyone cam google shit, then stand behind like they know something. How about common sense together with mechanics in the industry? Speak to them and get back to me.If I didn't know anything about metals, why would I be arguing the (correct) point about the metallurgy of the stud being one of the determining factors of a torque value?
You asked me to site my source, and I did. There are hundreds of other articles that you can google yourself to confirm this. Now, where is your proof? Provide your documentation stating that the composition of a wheel, has anything to do with the torque value set for the fastener.
I generally use an impact to remove them. What can I say, I like playing with that tool... FWIW I don't have any significant damage to the lugs. I wouldn't say they are unmarked but nothing I'm concerned about. Now if I had to deal with salted roads all winter I might alter my habits. I will run them down with the impact but use a torque wrench to tighten.If you want to save your stock lugs or aftermarket lugs for that matter, break them loose by hand before using the impact gun to remove. For installation, I use the impact on a light setting to run the lugs down, then a torque wrench for final torque. 150 ft/lbs is brutal to remove or install using an impact gun.
Oh boy, another one of those "die on this hill alone" types huh?Anyone cam google shit, then stand behind like they know something. How about common sense together with mechanics in the industry? Speak to them and get back to me.
Read the mother effin manual written by Ford and its engineers!! Jeezus the ignorance is astounding. If you think you know better than the engineers that designed the studs and determined the proper torque, why don’t you go talk to them and tell them to revise the owners manuals for every single model that uses those studs, including the Mustang.Anyone cam google shit, then stand behind like they know something. How about common sense together with mechanics in the industry? Speak to them and get back to me.
I bought these from Amazon because I wanted the same chrome look as the OEM capped ones; they look the same except they're solid one-piece nuts.Changed out my winter tire wheel set to my all season tire wheel set yesterday on my car and noticed a few of the OEM lug nuts are starting to swell and get a little warped. I want to get a new set of lugs to use later this fall when I put my winter tire wheel set back on.
I am looking for a solid 1 piece steel lug nut set to put on my 2016 GT/CS with OEM factory rims. I did a little research on the forums and found a couple threads saying Gorilla 61148FS lug nuts are a good choice for replacing the factory 2 piece capped lug nuts. Are there other recommendations for 1 piece steel lug nuts for OEM wheels?
To clarify, I am not using aftermarket rims. I have 8 rims total of the factory black painted California Special rims; 4 rims have the Pirelli P Zero Nero all season tires and the other 4 have Pirelli Sottozero 3 winter tires on them. Specifically looking for a good set of quality lug nuts that will last a long time, won’t be easily warped and are compatible with factory rims.
Exactly. All S550s have alloy wheels which is what most aftermarket wheels are. If Ford specifies 150 ft-lbs that's what we should torque them at since they manufactured the cars and their engineers/designers specified that. Someone called them aluminum wheels but frankly, if the wheels were solid, pure aluminum, I'm not sure they'd survive the force that's subjected on them, which is why they are called alloy wheels, made of a combination of different metals. I'm sure that today's aftermarket wheel manufacturers make the wheels to be torqued to whatever factory specs are for the particular vehicle the wheels are made for. Making a wheel that required a much lower torque than factory spec could open them up to lawsuits should an issue occur due to the lower torque.Every car I've ever had has had a torque spec listed for the lugs. Not all are the same but it's specified for the car. I've never bought an aftermarket wheel that came with torque specs.
Maybe I've not bought enough aftermarket wheels but until I do find one that specs a specific torque I'll continue to follow what they car manufacturer says. For the S550 Mustang, that's 150 ft lbs.