PPF questions

[Atlas1]

You switched out the Cup 2 tirescon your HP wheels? Too many flying pebbles?

Lol I had read about that before delivery but I was still shocked at how much the cup 2’s pick up. It sounded like I was driving on a gravel road leaving my neighborhood!

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[Mach1NA]

@murick, sorry for the delay. The film I installed over my hood is XPEL Ultimate Plus. My detailer also polished out the blemishes you highlighted, it arrived that way from the dealer. After about 2 weeks hoping the porosity would go away... it did not. Both the tech and I agreed that it had to be due to the texture on the matte section. Even though it appears to work on certain cars, like the FJ grey on YouTube, there's a high likelihood it won't on other cars. The adhesive under the film is not thick enough to fill the matte texture. And since I waited 2 weeks to remove the ppf, there was a risk of pulling up the stripe since the adhesive had cured. I opted to add a matte 3M vinyl layer on top of the ppf instead. They used knifeless tape to match the matte profile.

 

[murick]

@Mach1NA, thanks for sharing the details on the evolution of your case!

Even though it appears to work on certain cars, like the FJ grey on YouTube, there's a high likelihood it won't on other cars. The adhesive under the film is not thick enough to fill the matte texture.

This however sounds like a pretty serious conclusion. Now I wonder, if there is actually anyone here who did the full cover on a non-FJG car and also why there is a such difference between non-FJG and FJG stripes

 

[ACMEguy]

@Mach1NA, thanks for sharing the details on the evolution of your case!

This however sounds like a pretty serious conclusion. Now I wonder, if there is actually anyone here who did the full cover on a non-FJG car and also why there is a such difference between non-FJG and FJG stripes

I did, my installer did a full gloss 3M Pro on the hood and then added the 3M Stealth over the section of the stripe that was matte. They explained that this solution would create the fewest potential failure points and it the matte ever needed to come off, it would lift the stripe because of the full gloss sheet under it... I'll take some pictures and post them...

 

[mustang5o]

I did, my installer did a full gloss 3M Pro on the hood and then added the 3M Stealth over the section of the stripe that was matte. They explained that this solution would create the fewest potential failure points and it the matte ever needed to come off, it would lift the stripe because of the full gloss sheet under it... I'll take some pictures and post them...

Did you mean to say "it wouldn't lift the stripe because of the full gloss sheet under it"? I was just hoping the matte layer on top of gloss could be removed without any drama if needed. Though the concern about eventually needing to replace the PPF is always there.

 

[Charlemagne]

Though the concern about eventually needing to replace the PPF is always there.

Stripes can be ordered oem or made or painted or removed, they don't cost much. I wouldn't worry about it all that much. They'll be preserved under PPF for more than a decade, unlike all those micro-scratches they would suffer.

 

[ACMEguy]

Did you mean to say "it wouldn't lift the stripe because of the full gloss sheet under it"? I was just hoping the matte layer on top of gloss could be removed without any drama if needed. Though the concern about eventually needing to replace the PPF is always there.

I just re-read and you are correct, I meant to say 'will not lift the stripe' if the matte ever needed to be removed because the stripe is covered fully by the gloss sheet... I was typing in a hurry! I suppose if the gloss ever needed to come off then so would the stripe... But honestly it is a very efficient solution because you only 'feel' one bump instead of multiple seams...

 

[Jimmy Dean]

I just re-read and you are correct, I meant to say 'will not lift the stripe' if the matte ever needed to be removed because the stripe is covered fully by the gloss sheet... I was typing in a hurry! I suppose if the gloss ever needed to come off then so would the stripe... But honestly it is a very efficient solution because you only 'feel' one bump instead of multiple seams...

still need pics. I think what they did for you sounds like the best idea, just want to see it before I propose it to my guy when I go get a quote.

 

[ACMEguy]

still need pics. I think what they did for you sounds like the best idea, just want to see it before I propose it to my guy when I go get a quote.

I'll put some pics up today! it's kinda gray outside today so it might make for better pictures... no glare...

 

[jblue]

Same for me I had full hood bumper entire front fender door cups and door edges done as well as front of rear fender. They cut around the hood decal perfectly. They also cut around the side emblems as I didn’t want them to break it. Looks great can’t even tell it’s there

Good looking car. I really like it, nice color combo.

 

[Atlas1]

Stripes can be ordered oem or made or painted or removed, they don't cost much. I wouldn't worry about it all that much. They'll be preserved under PPF for more than a decade, unlike all those micro-scratches they would suffer.

I haven’t seen a part number yet for the stripes but I’m worried they are going to be more expensive than we would expect.

 

[mustang5o]

I haven’t seen a part number yet for the stripes but I’m worried they are going to be more expensive than we would expect.

If they are anything like the old Boss 302 stripes they will cost quite a bit for OEM.

 

[Charlemagne]

More than 1k?
I wonder how would those stripes look in 10-15 years of normal usage, might need replacing anyway.

 

[mustang5o]

More than 1k?
I wonder how would those stripes look in 10-15 years of normal usage, might need replacing anyway.

Looking at tascaparts.com a full set of 2013 Boss 302 stripes run between $1300-$1800. The center hood stripes run between about $360-$564 (higher being the grey reflective for the LS I believe). The Mach 1 hood stripe looks bigger than the Laguna Seca, has 3 colors and more design to it.

 

[Charlemagne]

Wow. And some people remove it right after purchase Guess I'll hope it'll last a looong time before I have to figure out what to do with it.

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