Performance vs Cost

[David Vizard]

This stuff should be posted here IMHO......
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/forums/i4-2-3l-ecoboost-engine-mods-bolt-ons-exhaust.67/

I think you could well be right here - but this is just the kind of help I had hoped for from this forums members.

Any chance you could make it plain on the section you suggest as at this moment in time I have not got a clue as to how to do this.
thanks
David Vizard

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[Qcman17]

I think you could well be right here - but this is just the kind of help I had hoped for from this forums members.

Any chance you could make it plain on the section you suggest as at this moment in time I have not got a clue as to how to do this.
thanks
David Vizard

If you click my link it will let you start a new thread on that page at the top just above the other threads or the Mods may move this automatically to keep relevant type topics together. You can also request it be moved but not sure how to do that honestly.

 

[SheepDog]

No and at my age I won't be able to do all I want to the Ecoboost I have so don't hold your breath on Coyote stuff.
DV

Thanks. Ignore the trolls on here, there are several stand outs that basically contribute nothing but pessimism and trash talking, and generally the slower their cars are, the louder their mouth is.

There are a lot of knowledgeable, motivated, friendly people here too.

 

[Tucker80]

Now explain to me and others who may read this thread what would be the point in me working my butt off to show potential viewers ways to get better performances and spend the money on dyno tests to back up claims of products you could buy that work very well or don't work at all and then keep it all secret?

I am sure many members of this forum would like a clear and precise answer to the
above question!

Let me ask you a blunt question here - did I offend you in a previous life or are you always critical of those who do their best to help other performance enthusiasts. As a now retired road racer and university lecturer and a guy who has over 40 patents including fuels, F1 cylinder heads, suspensions etc whether I should share a life times experience with others or just keep quiet about it all.

Hey guys lets take a vote here. Should I follow what Tucker 80 suggests and keep all this info under cover or let all and sundry benefit from my experience. And to do that I need to let folk know it's available and they get it FOR FREE! BTW I have saved guys like you but less critical a bunch of cash by telling them what works and does not. ALL AT MY EXPENSE!

I bet you have not watched any of my video's yet but you are more than ready to condemn my actions, PRICELESS!!!!!

The PowerTec 10 youtube channel is gaining just over 2000 subscribers a month so the term 'DESPERATE' is hardly accurate. PRICELESS!!

OK guys time to vote.

All those favoring Tucker 80 comments put T80 right at the beginning of your response.

All those favoring me announcing when I have done a video pertinent to a Mustang put a DV at the beginning of your response.

If I win this Mr. tucker 80 then I believe it would be fair to expect your opinions of me be kept to yourself.

David Vizard

We're all waiting anxiously to see the results of your groundbreaking research.

If I'm able to recap so far we've learned:

• Lighter wheels make cars faster
• Bigger turbo's make more power - and are in fact free if you install yourself
• Tuners have managed to make more power vs factory tunes
• Braces and bushings help put power to the ground
• A computer model has now demonstrated that these changes make your EB faster than all but one V8

In all seriousness we can all agree the EB is a great platform, but so far you haven't really lived up to your self professed hype. The insights you've gleaned are things that are either common knowledge, R&D'd by others or pure speculation in regard to the theoretical 1/8 mile times posted. I sincerely hope there will be future posts that contain substance, but so far its falling flat.

 

[Ranebowcyxx]

I beg to differ here. I paid $30,800 for an ecoboost mustang with 8 miles odometer. It was with the color I wanted and with the cloth seats as leather is not the best for a road course track day car. This means I had some $10,000 to spend on making the car what I wanted.

I was not a fan of any of the stock Mustangs wheels so I sold those for $1200 wheels and tires. Got a set of Aodhan wheels 1.5 inches wider and 6 lbs lighter and equipped them with 275/35-18 Continental tires summer grade. This wheel and tire combo dropped my 1/8 mile time by a 1/2 second and added 2.5 mph.

Not bad I thought for just a wheel and tire change. I now have a set of really good looking wheels (as I have been told now many a time by admirers at the drag strip) and tires that are better than can be had on a stock GT. The wheels and tires fitted and balance, with tire pressure sensors and new wheel nuts for $2355 from Fitment Industries. Added to this a set of rear end housing to body bushes were added so as to cut the startline hop (they fixed it to about 80-90%.)

With the addition of a Cobb tuner ($580) and a really effective new on the market cold air pipe from the stock air box to the turbo we went 8,31 at 86 mph at Shadyside dragway. This beat all but one current spec 5.0 Mustang GT's.
This winter I will be installing an upgraded version of the stock turbo which will be zero cost as I did this myself. Along with that will come an entire new (but quiet) exhaust system and a Polyquad head. All of this should be good for about 125 rear wheel Hp increase.

Even with all these mods I have still laid out less than buying a stock GT and at the end of the day I will have a faster better handling/cornering car for several grand less than a stock GT. The engine I am building for 2025 will have about 700 RWHP. It twould cost a lot more to get that from a GT. And just incase you think that 700 at the wheels is a lost cause I should tell you the last Turbo motor I did with a friend made 1172 uncorrected RWHP on a highly humid & hot day in the middle of summer in Florida.

That was just a 122 inch motor, At the finals of the winternationals in Palmdale it annihilated all the opposition- factory supported of not.

If I had to do it again I would buy an Ecoboost!!!
David Vizard

I too opted for an ecoboost instead of the GT. Saved about 10k as well.
I'm looking to beat my S197 best of 12.03 @119. So my goal is simply 11.5, i know a GT can easily kill that. The other reason is i want to try out road courses and utilize the lighter weight of the 4 cyl.

 

[David Vizard]

your introductory thread[/URL], you're the one that's going to explain to all of us mindless heathens whether or not it's possible.

Instead it seems to me you're coming here mining for information you don't have.

KingKona,

Did you respond to my reply to this somewhat presumptuous post of yours as per above.
DV

 

[David Vizard]

We're all waiting anxiously to see the results of your groundbreaking research.

If I'm able to recap so far we've learned:

• Lighter wheels make cars faster
• Bigger turbo's make more power - and are in fact free if you install yourself
• Tuners have managed to make more power vs factory tunes
• Braces and bushings help put power to the ground
• A computer model has now demonstrated that these changes make your EB faster than all but one V8

In all seriousness we can all agree the EB is a great platform, but so far you haven't really lived up to your self professed hype. The insights you've gleaned are things that are either common knowledge, R&D'd by others or pure speculation in regard to the theoretical 1/8 mile times posted. I sincerely hope there will be future posts that contain substance, but so far its falling flat.

Tucker80,
It seems to me that I have just come up against my first trouble maker on this channel. Why do I think that you as so?

Let's start with the fact you NEVER answer a question or acknowledge when you are wrong.

Here's an example:- My quote --
Now explain to me and others who may read this thread what would be the point in me working my butt off to show potential viewers ways to get better performances and spend the money on dyno tests to back up claims of products you could buy that work very well or don't work at all and then keep it all secret?

I am sure many members of this forum would like a clear and precise answer to the
above question!
Let's deal with this first. ARE YOU GOING TO EXPLAIN - A SIMPLE YES OR NO HERE WOULD SUFFICE FOR NOW.

LET'S GO FOR THIS SECOND SECTION OF MY POST:-

Let me ask you a blunt question here - did I offend you in a previous life or are you always critical of those who do their best to help other performance enthusiasts.

I would like a concise and 'on the subject' answer please.


NEXT ITEM:- should I share a life times experience with others or just keep quiet about it all?

A VERY SIMPLE YES OR NO WILL SUFFICE HERE

OK ENOUGH OF MY NEED FOR ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS TO YOU.

UNLIKE YOUR RESPONCES TO MY QUESTIONS I WILL NOW DEAL WITH THE POINTS YOU RAISE IN YOUR POST AS PER THE TEXT WAY ABOVE HERE.

#1

• Lighter wheels make cars faster
• This is such a feeble point to just pounce on so as to appear constructively critical. Again I don't think you have watched any of the PowerTec 10 YouTube series. There are almost countless people who will say that lighter wheels make you go fast but how many do you know the demonstrate this with real live track and chassis dyno test. I NEED A SPECIFIC ANSWER TO THAT IN THE FORM OF A SITE THAT DOES JUST THAT. (BET YOU DON'T FIND ONE!) DO YOUSELF A FAVOUR HERE AND GO CHECK EPISODE 99 OF POWERTEC 10 AND YOU CAN WATCH 24 MINUTES OF ACTUAL TESTS THAT PRETTY CONCLUSIVELY SHOW THAT THOSE WHEEL MANUFACTURES OR THEIR REPS THAT ARE CLAIMING 8.5 TO 10 TIMES RATIO BETWEEN LOST SPRUNG WEIGHT VERSUS UNSPRUNG. I BELIEVE I UNCOVERED A PRETTY BIG BS SCAM THERE TO SHOW THE VALUE OF LIGHTER WHEELS IN A MORE REEALISTIC LIGHT. SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT BEFORE?>?????? A yes no answer will do!
• #2
• Bigger turbo's make more power - and are in fact free if you install yourself.
• WHERE ON GOD'S EARTH DID YOU GET THAT FROM. THAT WHOLE STATEMENT IS ERRONEOUS IF YOU ARE CLAIMING IT'S A DV QUOTE. YOU MADE IT UP JUST TO HAVE MORE TO THROW AT ME. THAT SEEMS TO ME AN EFFORT TO BELITTLE WHAT I DO FOR THOSE WANTING SOME REAL WORLD FACTS NOT THE BS THAT SO MANY YOUTUBE SITES DELIVER. YOUR COMMENT HERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE UNDERHANDED.
• #3 Tuners have managed to make more power vs factory tunes. WELL OF COURSE THEY DO AND WE HAVE SEEN DYNO TESTS ON CHANNELS OTHER THAN POWERTEC 10 BUT HOW OFTEN DO YOU SEE THE INBUILT TUNES TRACK TESTED. LET ME ANSWER THAT FOR YOU - VERY RARELY.
• #4 Braces and bushings help put power to the ground. Yes but how much does such move cut the 60 ft time. Do we all need to buy the Steeda 'Stop the Hop' deal at some $1200. instead of $143 for 4 diff mount bushes. We showed that with stock tires the low buck solution was a pretty good fix but not entirely so when grippier tires were used. A lot of time went into that test which I am sure you would not have undertaken and then, IF YOU HAD DONE IT produced a reasonably professional video showing the real world results. AM I RIGHT? A SIMPLE YES OR NO WILL SUFFICE.
• #5 A computer model has now demonstrated that these changes make your EB faster than all but one V8

THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE 'WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THIS FROM' DEALS.
THERE ARE NO, REPEAT NO, COMPUTOR SIMULATIONS INVOLVED. THAT LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER FEEBLE ATTEMPT TO BELITTLE WHAT WE AT POWERTEC 10 ARE TRYING TO DO FOR ENTHUSIASTS. YOU ARE EITHER NOT WATCHING POWERTEC 10 OR LIEING. WHICH IS IT? ( BET WE DON'T GET AN ANSWER TO THAT ONE!)

Your opening line:- We're all waiting anxiously to see the results of your groundbreaking research.
That's just pure sarcasm. Those who have actually watched PowerTec 10 have seen tech explained that not one ProStock team chief engineers knew. (see episode 85)

Your comment:- In all seriousness we can all agree the EB is a great platform, but so far you haven't really lived up to your self professed hype.

Let's consider the definition of 'hype' . That's something done to overstate the functionality or performance of something. To show that what I am saying here is not 'hype' let me tell you that I have been asked probably over a hundred times with magazine editors to 'dumb it down a little'. Presumably so guys like you have a dogs chance of understanding it. However since you made the accusation it will be a good time to give you a couple of simple facts that show whatever you think is hype is actually fact. Here's the first. In terms of attendee satisfaction I score #1 out of all those who have lectured on like performance subjects. My record cannot be beaten only equaled. Also about 2 out of 3 of my university seminars get me a standing ovation. I rarely mention this but your 'hype' comment does, to my mind justify it as it proves you have little to no idea what you are talking about!

Your comment:- The insights you've gleaned are things that are either common knowledge, R&D'd by others or pure speculation in regard to the theoretical 1/8 mile times posted.

Sure I have as many do, a stack of info that can be labeled 'common knowledge'. However often what is labeled 'common knowledge' or common wisdom' is wrong. A prime example of that is Episode 85 of PowerTec 10, where I virtually tear most of the big cam companies a new ass. The evidence I put forward is so water tight that not one of the cam companies have argued against my finding.

As for things R&D'd by others if they have a sound argument and can back it up with good test procedures then I RECOMEND MY VEIWERS TO GO AND WATCH IT!

THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF POWERTEC 10 IS TO HELP PERFORMANCE ENTHUSIASTS GET GOOD ADVICE!


NOW I KNOW WHAT ONE OF YOUR COMEBACKS WILL BE. AND HERE IT IS:-

WELL WHY DON'T YOU POST YOUR FINDINGS HERE ON THIS CHANNEL INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BOOST YOUR SUBSCRIBER COUNT BY 'ADVERTIZING' A NEW EPISODE WHEN YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED IT TO YOUTUBE?

SIMPLE ANSWER HERE. THE POWERTEC 10 VIDEO'S ARE JUST TOO LONG AT BETWEEN ABOUT 30 MINS AND AN HOUR AND SOMETIMES MORE. JUST HOW MANY PAGES WOULD THAT TAKE UP ON THIS FORUM???
ALSO THERE IS THE VISUAL CONTENT THAT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO PUT INTO A FORUM LIKE THIS.

OK I am about done here Mr. Tucker80. After answering my yes/no questions here I will entertain giving you some of my very valuable time if your response is polite, well researched, has no ambiguity, and is free from having an agenda that only serves to suit someone who is hell bent on unjustifiable belittling a freely given top quality service to enthusiasts world wide. If you don't for some REASON APPROVE OF WHAT I AM DOING HERE FEEL FREE TO SILENTLY IGNORE WHATEVER YOU WANT.

OH AND ONE LAST THING HERE - GET A LIFE! (I know I am enjoying the heck out of mine!)
DAVID VIZARD

 

[KingKona]

Tucker80,
It seems to me that I have just come up against my first trouble maker on this channel.....blah-blah-blah-blah.....

No, he's your second trouble maker.

I'll tell you what dude.....you're a joke. You represented yourself as a turbo-guru, Christ come to cleanse the M6G temple. But you're really here for two reasons;

1. To get yourself educated, by greedily helping yourself to all the information on this site. And not even by just searching this forum for information, but asking others to spoon-feed you the answers that you seek.

2. Promote your YT channel.

I know you think you're some sort of guru, but you're out-classed by 1/2 the people here. There's plenty who are more up-to-date, more knowledgeable, and less self-aggrandizing than you.

Please, feel free to take a long walk off a short pier.

 

[Tucker80]

It seems to me that I have just come up against my first trouble maker on this channel. Why do I think that you as so?

Please post 1 single new idea that you have researched, developed, A/B tested, and that moves this platform forward and you'll surely be welcomed with the fan fair you most certainly feel you deserve.

So far all you've done is promote a YouTube channel and regurgitate how amazing it is that the bolt on improvements people have been doing for decades actually work... but somehow when you do its original and we should all applaud that you're "working your butt off". Its sad, give it up, move on.

 

[Ranebowcyxx]

It's too bad none of you got to benefit from Dave's full body of work. Back in the 80's and 90's before you had a treasure trove of data at your fingertips we had to rely on guys like David for guidance on cams, heads, fuel delivery and that just skims the surface of the experience this man has. I have personally built about a dozen motors, small blocks are a breeze compared to turbo motors if you are new to them. If you know it all, good for you.

 

[David Vizard]

No, he's your second trouble maker.

I'll tell you what dude.....you're a joke. You represented yourself as a turbo-guru, Christ come to cleanse the M6G temple. But you're really here for two reasons;

1. To get yourself educated, by greedily helping yourself to all the information on this site. And not even by just searching this forum for information, but asking others to spoon-feed you the answers that you seek.

2. Promote your YT channel.

I know you think you're some sort of guru, but you're out-classed by 1/2 the people here. There's plenty who are more up-to-date, more knowledgeable, and less self-aggrandizing than you.

Please, feel free to take a long walk off a short pier.

KING KONA
Tell me is this 'King' title one you have bestowed on yourself? If any one of us between Tucker80, yourself and me are 'Jokers' I would be way down the list in third place!

Now let's look at those two reasons you are proposing are the only reasons I am here on this site:-
Your first comment: To get yourself educated, by greedily helping yourself to all the information on this site.

I have asked members three questions.
1) if it was possible to install a race seat onto the power set mechanism of the stock seats. GOT NO VIABLE ANSWER!

2) How to post a new thread? That one was answered very promptly. Thanks to who ever did so.


3) What boost did the in the Turbosmart IWG 75 internal waste deliver as received?
I only got one response and It was a little vague but at least it was a response. I finally got a figure for this from American Muscle - the company I bought it from.

So my 'greedy mining' of useful data from the 'hallowed halls' of M6G has not been what you could say as very fruitful. I suspect the ridiculous term you use ie 'Greedily helping myself to all the information on the site' is no more than one of those slightly malicious and much exaggerated statements that are so commonly made by Trolls.

But let me ask you a question here. By joining this forum am I not supposed to ask questions - just sit quietly at my desk and avoid taking advantage of any of the potential benefits of joining the forum? If anyone else asks questions that appears to be OK but If I ask two or three simple questions im am told I am greedily mining info. Is that not the epitome of DOUBLE STANDARDS???

again your comment:-
And not even by just searching this forum for information, (AND HOW DID YOU ESTABLISH I DID NOT SEARCH THE FORUM?) but asking others to spoon-feed you the answers that you seek. THE 'SPOON FEEDING' THAT YOU SUGGEST HERE DID NOT SHOW ANY POSITIVE RESULTS ON THE TWO TECH QUESTIONS ASKED!!!!

Your comment:-
You represented yourself as a turbo-guru,
No I don't but my track results would strongly indicate there MAY BE some validity in that title. But mark my word it is not one I bestow on my self Mr. KING whatever.

Now let's move on to point # 2:-
2. Promote your YT channel.

Let me ask you the same question I asked Mr. tucker80 (I wonder if the 80 is his IQ)

Why would I go to all the trouble of researching, testing and showing the results of such and keep it secret? During the time I have been a M6G member I have done about 2-1/2 hours of Video that I guarantee would have taught even a moronic troll some turbo facts.
Would you have objected if I had posted all I found on this forum (that would be about 75 to 100 pages). Probable not but, with absolutely no doubt, you would have found something to complain about!

Your statement:-but you're out-classed by 1/2 the people here. There's plenty who are more up-to-date, more knowledgeable- ----

Really - Just point me in their direction so I can - via my youtube channel, say who they are and why viewers should sign up to benefit from their knowledge. If I do that this piece of useful info will get too about 40,000 people in one month. I am really good at spotting talented people and giving credits where such are due.

Your opening comment:- No, he's your second trouble maker.
Rest assure there will be at least a half a dozen more like you but they will all go down in a trail of smoke - for sure!


Your comment:- Please, feel free to take a long walk off a short pier.

Mr King whatever, if I did that I would most certainly sink because I am slightly heavier than the water I would displace. You on the other hand would float by virtue of a head full of wood!

I am looking forward to your response here so I can shoot that full of holes!

Oh, and by the way I use my real name for these posts while you find it necessary to use a pseudonym. Who are you really and what's your claim to any useful doings on this planet.
David Vizard

 

[KingKona]

KING KONA
Tell me is this 'King' title one you have bestowed on yourself?....blah-blah-blah-blah......

King Kona is my car you dumbass. Not me.

Please, just stfu.

 

[David Vizard]

Please post 1 single new idea that you have researched, developed, A/B tested, and that moves this platform forward and you'll surely be welcomed with the fan fair you most certainly feel you deserve.

So far all you've done is promote a YouTube channel and regurgitate how amazing it is that the bolt on improvements people have been doing for decades actually work... but somehow when you do its original and we should all applaud that you're "working your butt off". Its sad, give it up, move on.

Mr. Tucker 80,
You are just so predictable. You have totally side stepped answering one single question that I asked a simple YES/NO answer for.
NOW TELL ME WHY YOU FEEL THAT IT'S OK TO ASK ME QUESTIONS (WHICH I FEEL I HAVE MORE THAN ADEQUATLY ANSWERED) BUT IT'S OK FOR YOU TO TOTALLY DISREGARD ANSWERING MINE?

SO HERE'S THE DEAL. I WILL GLADLY ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS HERE IF AND WHEN YOU FIRST ANSWER MINE!!!!!

I REALLY HOPE YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IN A SATISFACTORY MANNER. REMEMBER SOME REQUIRED ONLY A SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER. ARE YOU UP TO THAT? (YES OR NO)
BY DOING SO YOU WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL JUST A FRACTION OF WHAT I HAVE DONE. HOWEVER THE DOWN SIDE OF THAT IS TROLLS LIKE YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND SOME NEGATIVE POINT AGAINST THE FOLK YOU ARE TARGETING. IN MY CASE I AM NOT SO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE EVENTUALLY I WILL PROVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS NOT FACT BASED BUT MALICIOUS INTENT BASED.

NOW MAN UP AND ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!!!!

ONLY THEN WILL I BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ALL YOURS. AND THEY WILL BE ANSWERS THAT DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR AGENDA WELL!
YOUR MOVE!!!!!

DAVID VIZARD

 

[David Vizard]

King Kona is my car you dumbass. Not me.

Please, just stfu.

AS I SUPECTED NOT ONE QUESTION ANSWERED!! I SUSPECT YOU ARE NOW GRASPING AT STRAWS. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO HAVE TAKEN ON MORE THAN YOU CAN CHEW?

AS FOR THIS COMMENT:- Please, just stfu. - YOU FIRST - THEN I WON'T HAVE TOO WASTE MY TIME DEFENDING MY POSITION TO SOMEONE WHO (SO FAR) APPEARS TO HAVE ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF A NUMB SKULL.

ONE LAST POINT - I BET YOU STILL HAVE NOT READ EVEN A SMALL AMOUNT OF THE TECH STUFF ON POWERTEC 10. THIS TELLS ME CONCLUSIVELY ALL YOU ARE SAYING IS BASED ON SUPPOSITION NOT PROPERLY RESEARCHED FACTS.
DAVID VIZARD

 

[KingKona]

Mr. Tucker 80,
You are just so predictable. You have totally side stepped answering one single question that I asked a simple YES/NO answer for.
NOW TELL ME WHY YOU FEEL THAT IT'S OK TO ASK ME QUESTIONS (WHICH I FEEL I HAVE MORE THAN ADEQUATLY ANSWERED) BUT IT'S OK FOR YOU TO TOTALLY DISREGARD ANSWERING MINE?

SO HERE'S THE DEAL. I WILL GLADLY ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS HERE IF AND WHEN YOU FIRST ANSWER MINE!!!!!

I REALLY HOPE YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS IN A SATISFACTORY MANNER. REMEMBER SOME REQUIRED ONLY A SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER. ARE YOU UP TO THAT? (YES OR NO)
BY DOING SO YOU WILL GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL JUST A FRACTION OF WHAT I HAVE DONE. HOWEVER THE DOWN SIDE OF THAT IS TROLLS LIKE YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND SOME NEGATIVE POINT AGAINST THE FOLK YOU ARE TARGETING. IN MY CASE I AM NOT SO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE EVENTUALLY I WILL PROVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS NOT FACT BASED BUT MALICIOUS INTENT BASED.

NOW MAN UP AND ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!!!!

ONLY THEN WILL I BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ALL YOURS. AND THEY WILL BE ANSWERS THAT DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR AGENDA WELL!
YOUR MOVE!!!!!

DAVID VIZARD

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and suggest that internet forums aren't for you.

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