Old guy Mustang questions.

[Mustang Enjoyer]

Can I just ask when it became “elitist” to fill up with premium gas (93 here in Chicago)? There’s been a few comments about it now. Yeah, gas ain’t cheap but for the tiny gas tank they give us you’re talking about an extra $10-$15 at fill up? Hardly seems elite to me but maybe I’m missing something. Use 87, 91, 93, whatever moves you. Ford states in the manual it’s fine.

Filling up with 93 isn't elitist. But posting about how (and not saying you) if you're not using 93 you're doing it wrong (paraphrasing) is an elitist attitude. Show me a Dyno that results in anything greater than 3-5hp increase or excessive knock/timing being pulled by using 87.

The elitism also comes from randomly making a 93 only club without there being any evidence.

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[Qcman17]

I use 91 I guess that makes me Middle Class.

 

[young at heart]

Filling up with 93 isn't elitist. But posting about how (and not saying you) if you're not using 93 you're doing it wrong (paraphrasing) is an elitist attitude. Show me a Dyno that results in anything greater than 3-5hp increase or excessive knock/timing being pulled by using 87.

The elitism also comes from randomly making a 93 only club without there being any evidence.

I personally want every single ounce of horsepower I can get out of the engine without mods or anything requiring a change that could be warranty questionable. I therefore consider the price of 93 in exchange for 5 hp to be the bargain of the century. Wish I could do it several times over.

If that’s elitist then so be it. I’m not wealthy but I didn’t buy these cars to skimp. I want ‘em to scoot!

 

[Onewolf]

I personally want every single ounce of horsepower I can get out of the engine without mods or anything requiring a change that could be warranty questionable. I therefore consider the price of 93 in exchange for 5 hp to be the bargain of the century. Wish I could do it several times over.

If that’s elitist then so be it. I’m not wealthy but I didn’t buy these cars to skimp. I want ‘em to scoot!

For some reason I thought 91 was the magic optimal power octane? If 93 is better than 91, why not go for octane booster or racing gas?

 

[Mustang Enjoyer]

I personally want every single ounce of horsepower I can get out of the engine without mods or anything requiring a change that could be warranty questionable. I therefore consider the price of 93 in exchange for 5 hp to be the bargain of the century. Wish I could do it several times over.

If that’s elitist then so be it. I’m not wealthy but I didn’t buy these cars to skimp. I want ‘em to scoot!

You can't even feel 5 HP. It may as well not exist. Now if you wanted to say you get 93 for efficiency reasons or better detergents in the gas I would agree. And marginally better knock resistance.

 

[Bikeman315]

87 Minimum required
91 Recommended to achieve advertised HP & fuel mileage numbers.
93 (Where available) Maximum octane recommended for stock engines.

Bottom line…..use whatever you feel makes your car perform best (and just tell everyone that you use 93!

 

[Tang]

We had a gas shortage recently following a 1000 year rain event. I couldn't find gas for a few days and when I did all they had was 87. I most definitely noticed it was sluggish and down on power after using 93 exclusively for 7 years. People that saying you don't notice cmon - it feels like a different car

 

[young at heart]

You can't even feel 5 HP. It may as well not exist. Now if you wanted to say you get 93 for efficiency reasons or better detergents in the gas I would agree. And marginally better knock resistance.

I‘m afraid you’re mistaken.

If I think I can feel it, then I can feel it.

Doesn‘t really matter anyway; everybody does what blows up their own skirt. If it’s not illegal, who cares? I don’t care if someone else decides to run diesel.

 

[young at heart]

We had a gas shortage recently following a 1000 year rain event. I couldn't find gas for a few days and when I did all they had was 87. I most definitely noticed it was sluggish and down on power after using 93 exclusively for 7 years. People that saying you don't notice cmon - it feels like a different car

Yes, altogether.

 

[PoCoBob]

I agree, do what makes you happy. And for me trusting the information given to me by the people who designed and built the car over someone on the internet I've never met makes me happy. YMMV.

 

[Hack]

I resemble your title.
I bought a new 2022 gt 301a 6mt a couple months ago.

If I set the cruise control 50-55, reset mpg, kinda flat road, I get low 30 mpg.
Overall mpg just driving around mid to upper 20's mpg.
Which is higher mpg than I would of guessed.

2022 manual says use 87 octane.
I get no pinging. I think the gen3 coyote is 12 to 1 compression.

I have read the 2022 coyote motor is emision detuned and I believe it.
Acceleration from a stop is great, but if you floor it from 30,40,50,60 barely any getup and go.

My 2019 f150 5.0l has more mid speed acceleration than my new mustang !
Blah...
Jerry

When you floor it at 30 or 40 with the current manual transmission gearing you want to be in first gear to get the full benefits. Second gear would be marginal, but at least you can downshift into second while the car is moving. If you are in 3rd or 4th gear, it will be doggy. To me that's the thing I like the least about the current manual transmission gearing choices Ford engineers made.

 

[Jerryinpa]

When you floor it at 30 or 40 with the current manual transmission gearing you want to be in first gear to get the full benefits. Second gear would be marginal, but at least you can downshift into second while the car is moving. If you are in 3rd or 4th gear, it will be doggy. To me that's the thing I like the least about the current manual transmission gearing choices Ford engineers made.

Yep, a couple members said after 2018 the 6mt changed to I think a Getrag Mt82-D8 with different gear ratios is what I'm experiencing. And I should get the tach above 4000 rpms.
Thanks, Jerry

 

[Aks550]

Filling up with 93 isn't elitist. But posting about how (and not saying you) if you're not using 93 you're doing it wrong (paraphrasing) is an elitist attitude. Show me a Dyno that results in anything greater than 3-5hp increase or excessive knock/timing being pulled by using 87.

The elitism also comes from randomly making a 93 only club without there being any evidence.

Please stop using fancy words on other people ( who can afford prenium gas) to justify your cheapness on the point that you are broke and too cheap to run prenium gas in your sports car. You are better off driving a corolla. Want to play gotta to pay!

Obviously you have not seen high mileage vehicles that run on regular gas vs premium gas. Keep your cheapness and lack of knowledge to yourself.

 

[Aks550]

I resemble your title.
I bought a new 2022 gt 301a 6mt a couple months ago.

If I set the cruise control 50-55, reset mpg, kinda flat road, I get low 30 mpg.
Overall mpg just driving around mid to upper 20's mpg.
Which is higher mpg than I would of guessed.

2022 manual says use 87 octane.
I get no pinging. I think the gen3 coyote is 12 to 1 compression.

I have read the 2022 coyote motor is emision detuned and I believe it.
Acceleration from a stop is great, but if you floor it from 30,40,50,60 barely any getup and go.

My 2019 f150 5.0l has more mid speed acceleration than my new mustang !
Blah...
Jerry

That's you running 87, i run prenium since the second track fill up since new. Never experience anything lack of acceleration from any point of speed.

With compression 12 to 1 engine, it would be cheap and foolish to run cheap gas. For people who wants to be cheap why buy sports car? Buy a Corolla instead!

 

[RagmopInKona]

I agree nobody "needs" the GT power. To me it sounds like the OP WANTS the GT power, though.

I think the Coyote is an engine with a great character. I really like how it makes more and more power as it revs out to redline. The EB is fine, but it has the turbo small engine issues like lag. It also hits at lower RPM and then runs out of steam early. So, if a person prefers the naturally aspirated feel they will get more than just power benefits from owning a GT.

Regarding the octane conversations from earlier, I don't know how the 2018+ cars react to 87 octane, but I've never noticed any change in power or performance running 87 99% of the time in my 2015 or 2017 GTs. I live in a northern state with a cool climate, though. There are very few days when I'm sitting in stop and go traffic in 95 degree heat.

Maybe. Only he,she knows .

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