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[V00D00]

No I did not admit to anything he said except he’s a crook. No where did I say he’s right.

Except that time you wrote that my claims were incapable of happening, only to call me a crook for doing just that.. make up your mind child, cant have it both ways

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[obspsd]

Another GT500 thread that’s turned into a joke.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Another GT500 thread that’s turned into a joke.

A GT500, a Hellcat and a ZL1 walk into a bar ...

 

[Trackaholic]

A GT500, a Hellcat and a ZL1 walk into a bar ...

The ZL1 arrives first but bumps into a barstool.

“Oooof, I didn’t see that there,” he says.

The Hellcat arrives next and hits the same stool.

“Ouch! I couldn’t get out of the way of that stool.”

The GT500 arrives last, hobbling slowly attached to a ball and chain.

“What happened to you?” The others ask.

The GT500 replies, “I’ve been governed.”

-T

 

[sqidd]

Ford knows that they have paid a ton of fraudulent warranty claims over the years. Do you think they don't have the internet? I know for a fact that Ford is taking the power-train warranty very seriously on the GT500. If the car has ever had anything but the stock tune in it (they can absolutely 100% tell if it has been tapered with) the power-train warranty is void. End of story. Do not pass go. Do not collect your $200. Step one of the GT500 power-train warranty process is to plug it into the magic box. If the magic box says it has been tapered with game over. With this car the "I'll put it back to stock" isn't going to cut it. Sure, if you have a tune and a faulty ABS sensor it will get replaced. But NOTHING in the power-train. Not.....................one......................thing.

If you tune the car be prepared to eat whatever happens. Because you will. Any person on this board in the position of Ford would have the same policy.

 

[V00D00]

for ucks sake, here we go again, they cannot 100% tell anything. stop the internet drama

 

[sqidd]

for ucks sake, here we go again, they cannot 100% tell anything. stop the internet drama

If you're referring to if they can 100% tell if the tune has been tapered with....it's a fact. Are you suggesting Ford can't design software to track tampering? There are 12yr olds that could write that code. I don't know if you have picked this up from my previous posts but my best friend was the performance standards engineer on the GT350 and the GT500 (now on another project). Are you suggesting he doesn't know what Ford has put in place in regards to this car to protect themselves against warranty fraud? And that you somehow know differently? Warranty fraud is right in the middle of Fords radar right now. It's a HUGE deal.

It's laughably ridiculous that you somehow think that you know what is going on more than the top project leaders for the GT500 program. You're the only one bringing drama, I brink facts.

 

[Dominator961]

for ucks sake, here we go again, they cannot 100% tell anything. stop the internet drama

You’re a fucking idiot. Time to put your stupid ass on ignore.

 

[Dominator961]

If you're referring to if they can 100% tell if the tune has been tapered with....it's a fact. Are you suggesting Ford can't design software to track tampering? There are 12yr olds that could write that code. I don't know if you have picked this up from my previous posts but my best friend was the performance standards engineer on the GT350 and the GT500 (now on another project). Are you suggesting he doesn't know what Ford has put in place in regards to this car to protect themselves against warranty fraud? And that you somehow know differently? Warranty fraud is right in the middle of Fords radar right now. It's a HUGE deal.

It's laughably ridiculous that you somehow think that you know what is going on more than the top project leaders for the GT500 program. You're the only one bringing drama, I brink facts.

You’re wasting your time explaining this to a mute.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

You’re wasting your time explaining this to a mute.

Huh? Mutes are the perfect debate opponent.

 

[Ninjak]

Bloody hell....lets go with this. Buy the car, mod it, tune, put it back to stock, go in for something that had to do with what you done and see what happens....then report on it. There you go.

For some the warranty will not be a big deal, others it will. Why argue about it ? For several threads even ? The bloody thing is not even off the assembly line.......

 

[sqidd]

Buy the car, mod it, tune, put it back to stock, go in for something that had to do with what you done and see what happens....then report on it. There you go.

You spelled "Commit fraud and see what happens" wrong.

 

[V00D00]

if you revert to stock tune, they cannot tell. their is an ignition counter, but thats it. Boom. there goes the "100%" theory. they can have suspicions, but they should anyway, its a mustang not a bugatti. but stop promulgating false information

 

[sqidd]

if you revert to stock tune, they cannot tell. their is an ignition counter, but thats it. Boom. there goes the "100%" theory. they can have suspicions, but they should anyway, its a mustang not a bugatti. but stop promulgating false information

Really? And you have that confirmed by?????? Your uncles friends cousins next door neighbor that is a roofer by trade?

Even if they couldn't tell. It still makes you a thief.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

if you revert to stock tune, they cannot tell. their is an ignition counter, but thats it. Boom. there goes the "100%" theory. they can have suspicions, but they should anyway, its a mustang not a bugatti. but stop promulgating false information

There's also a code (P1000) set (that's not accessible with normal OTC hardware) that's not cleared until you complete the Ford Drive Cycle, which is some low-ish miles (I think the theory is around 200) operations across various throttle positions, etc.

I wasn't going to chime in to this topic-within-a-topic - and not trying to be diplomatic - but the people involved are all "sort of right". While there's not traceable evidence of the specifics of a flash to ID it was an aftermarket tune, there are residuals that might be used to enforce a correlation/causation action on the part of Ford.

i.e., you smoke a motor, car doesn't run, so you flash your car to stock (swap out other aftermarket hardware), cycle the ignition, and show up with a year old vehicle with a P1000 code and a damaged block? There might not be specific evidence of an aftermarket tune, but it's not a hard set of dots to connect (especially if there's other visual signs).

However, you car starts running bad, you do the same as above, also clear the FDC, a tune was the only change, and hey, it's not a daily driver, so 50 ignition cycles on a one year old car isn't all that suspicious, the damage could be correlated to a factory issue, build tolerances, you know the service manager, no reason to think there was any tampering, it probably gets fixed.

YMMV.

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