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Vlad Soare

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You mean the looks that haven't changed since the 60's :giggle:
That wouldn't be a bad thing if the car were pretty. Aston Martin, for instance, hasn't changed much over the years, and yet no-one's complaining about that. But when the car is ugly to begin with, and then it never changes, that's a different story. :giggle:
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You Porsche guys are nuts!! Are Porsches really that great? I've never ridden / driven one, and to be honest, never been that big a fan of the looks.
I own one of the junkier Porsches - an '86 944 NA. I like it enough that I'm constantly fantasizing about an LS swap. It's a tiny car. I'm 6'4" and I have a wide build. I sit on top of the bolsters in the Mustang seats and they are somewhat uncomfortable for me because they are too narrow. The ergonomics in that tiny Porsche are awesome. I have a lot of head room and the steering wheel and pedals are positioned very well.


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The car has 50/50 weight distribution and weighs about 3,000 lbs. It feels like a little go-kart. The chassis is much stiffer than the 2004 Z06 I used to own. I bought the Z06 because of the Porsche. The one thing I hate about the Porsche is it doesn't have enough power. I wanted a light, low car with a transaxle and V8. But I didn't fit well enough in the Z06. I didn't fit at all with a helmet. So the Z06 is gone but I still have the Porsche and I still want to do that engine swap.

The newer Porsches I think are a little too good to be fun on the street. Too much grip and the power comes at high RPM. And I think they are too expensive for what you get. I always try to get the most I can out of my money.
 
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Pft, Porsche. Bugatti Veyron oil change costs $21000.
 

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I do have eyes. I can see exactly what I'm "missing". It looks like a stepped on Beetle, and they put the engine in the wrong place.

There's definitely been some evolution. Every step of the way has looked damn good.

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You should see an Optometrist:sunglasses:!
 

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Hell, how much does the oil change usually cost on the mustang?
 

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What a shit design if it takes that long to change oil. Rich folks sure are suckers.
 

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Just the cost of oil and filter.
Nooooo surely not. I buy my own and do it. 10 qts of MC 5/20 full synthetic is 52.00 and filter is 18 I think. So 70.00 in parts. What’s the deal charge for those that take it to the dealer was my question.
 

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Seriously guys, now we are beating up on Porsche's. I'm sorry but if I had an extra $200k laying around I'd buy on of these in a heartbeat. Right after I bought my Aston Martin :giggle:

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VW brought the Beetle back? Not sure I like the new body style.
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