It happened again, Window dance.

[K4fxd]

This is the third time. Up, Down Up, Down Up Down.
I replaced everything except the door sensor. Anyone know where it is? The last 2 times it was the water issue. This time it has been sealed so it is not water and tonight when I parked it the window stayed down. It never did this before.

Anyone have the correct Ford name and or part number, or just tell me where it is. I can find nothing.

Thanks.

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[Cobra Jet]

This is the third time. Up, Down Up, Down Up Down.
I replaced everything except the door sensor. Anyone know where it is? The last 2 times it was the water issue. This time it has been sealed so it is not water and tonight when I parked it the window stayed down. It never did this before.

Anyone have the correct Ford name and or part number, or just tell me where it is. I can find nothing.

Thanks.

Have you tried this:
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/window-reset.52786/page-3#post-1263052

 

[K4fxd]

Have you tried this:
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/window-reset.52786/page-3#post-1263052

Yes, I also reset the door window module in forscan. This car is possessed.

 

[K4fxd]

I want to know the name of the sensor that tells the car when the door opens (window drops 1/4 inch) and closes (window raises 1/4 inch)

Mine is dancing when the window is up. Think of driving down the highway and your window is going up and down 1/4 inch randomly.

 

[Buldawg76]

The sensor that tells the DDM/PDM the door is open is part of the door latch assy so you need to replace it if it has not already been replaced. You can test it with the door open by using a screwdriver to manually close the striker cam of the latch which should cause the window to raise to the closed position, then pull outside or inside door handle while using screwdriver to return striker cam to open position and window should drop.

I am not sure of the wire colors/pin location for the actual switch connector in the latch assy but you can also test just the switch continuity with the latch out of door to confirm if it is the door latch switch open/intermittent or wiring/DDM/PDMs not receiving the signal.

Mine was doing that about a year ago and i found the paper sticker in the A pilar between the door hinges was peeling off on the passenger side so replaced the sticker with the rubber plugs from the TSB 22-2242 kit and it has not happened since so would check to see if those stickers are loose as well.


Model:

Ford 2015-2022 Mustang

Issue: Some 2015-2022 Mustang vehicles may exhibit a water leak onto the front carpet that originates from the either the left or right A-pillar. This may be due to a detached A-pillar body seal. Follow the service procedure to repair the vehicle.

Action: Follow the Service Procedure to correct the condition on vehicles that meet all of the following criteria:

• 2015-2022 Mustang
• Water leak onto the front carpet from the A-pillar area

Parts

Service Part Number	Quantity	Description	Unit of Issue	Piece Quantity
W718717-S300​	1​	Rubber Body Plug	4​	2​
PM-13-A​	As Needed​	Motorcraft® Anti-Corrosion Coating	​	​
19500​	As Needed​	Motorcraft® All-in-One Exterior Lacquer Touch-Up Paint - Refer To The Part Catalog For The VIN Specific Application	​	​

Quantity refers to the amount of the service part number required to repair the vehicle.

Unit of Issue refers to the number of individual pieces included in a service part number package.

Piece Quantity refers to the total number of individual pieces required to repair the vehicle.

Warranty Status: Eligible under provisions of New Vehicle Limited Warranty (NVLW)/Service Part Warranty (SPW)/Special Service Part (SSP)/Extended Service Plan (ESP) coverage. Limits/policies/prior approvals are not altered by a TSB. NVLW/SPW/SSP/ESP coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part and verified using the OASIS part coverage tool.

Labor Times

Description	Operation No.	Time
2015-2022 Mustang: Inspect And Install Body Plug On One (1) Side Of The Vehicle Following The Service Procedure (Do Not Use With Operation Outside Of This Article)	222242A​	0.3 Hrs.​
2015-2022 Mustang: Inspect And Install Body Plug On Both (2) Sides Of The Vehicle Following The Service Procedure (Do Not Use With Operation Outside Of This Article)	222242B​	0.5 Hrs.​
Additional Time To Service Carpet For Dampness And/Or Odor (Can Be Claimed With Operations A Or B)	MT222242​	Actual Time​

Repair/Claim Coding

Causal Part:	76211A10
Condition Code:	17

Service Procedure

1. Fully open both doors.

2. Inspect the body seals on both A-pillars for complete 360-degree adhesion to the sheet metal. (Figure 1)

NOTE: The A-pillar body seals are an adhesive patch that seals a 19 mm (0.75 in.) diameter hole in the sheet metal. These seals must have complete adhesion around all edges. If any portion of the sealing surface is compromised, water entry into the cabin may result.

Figure 1 - Left A-pillar shown, right A-pillar similar



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3. Are the body seals on both A-pillars completely sealed to the body? (Figure 2)

Figure 2 - Example of failed A-pillar sticker seals



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(1). Yes - this article does not apply.

(2). No - proceed to Step 4.

4. Inspect the fender insulator to be sure it does not restrict access to the A-pillar body seal. If the fender insulator covers any portion of the A-pillar body seal, the foam fender insulator can be slightly indented to allow for unobstructed access to the seal.

5. Apply paint-safe, protective tape to the door and fender edges.

6. Use fingers and/or pliers to completely remove and discard the A-pillar body seal.

7. Use alcohol wipes to remove all remaining adhesive left by the discarded body seal.

8. Apply Motorcraft® Anti-Corrosion Coating to all exposed metal around the A-pillar body hole. Allow the Motorcraft® Anti-Corrosion Coating to dry following the instructions on the container.

9. Use a small paint brush to apply touch-up paint to the exterior surfaces that were previously coated with Motorcraft® Anti-Corrosion Coating. Allow paint time to dry following the instructions on the touch-up paint container.

10. Install and fully seat the new rubber body plug into the A-pillar body hole.

11. If the other A-pillar body seal requires repair, repeat Steps 4-10.




Hope this helps.

BD

 

[K4fxd]

Hope this helps

I don't have any water in the cabin problems but I did have water in the window motor plug. I dried it out and added dielectric grease and that fixed it for about a year. It then started again and I replaced the window motor and also reapplied the dielectric grease. It's been another year or so and it is happening again. I doubt it is water.

I will replace the latch assembly. I did an oasis check on this car and it has never had any warranty work done. So I will also address this TSB.

Thank you.

 

[Buldawg76]

I don't have any water in the cabin problems but I did have water in the window motor plug. I dried it out and added dielectric grease and that fixed it for about a year. It then started again and I replaced the window motor and also reapplied the dielectric grease. It's been another year or so and it is happening again. I doubt it is water.

I will replace the latch assembly. I did an oasis check on this car and it has never had any warranty work done. So I will also address this TSB.

Thank you.

I did not have any water in my floorboard either but the fact that the BCM is right below the passenger A pilar sticker area I figured it may have been allowing some moisture to be present around the BCM. I have not done any waterproofing of the window motors connectors or other connectors in the doors but after replacing the sticker with just the rubber plug from the TSB my passengers window has not done the dance since. It's been about a year and the car lives outside in the elements with no carport or any other cover.

BD

 

[K4fxd]

FR3Z-63264A27-C

Is this the part with the sensor?


Other Name: Lock Actuator
Manufacturer Note: Latch

• Position: Driver Side
• Fit Note: FEATURE CONTENT GROUP 1, Less Secondary
  Security System, Power Door Lock With Elec Release
• Callout Name: <21812

 

[Buldawg76]

Yes, that is the part with the "door ajar switch" in it and the ajar switch is what tells the BCM/DDM/PDM to perform the short drop function when a door is opened. It is an open/closed grounding switch that is closed when the door is closed and open when the door is open, the BCM send a voltage signal to the switch thru the DDM/PDM for the short drop operation.


Door Latches

The door latches are sealed units and contain the door lock actuator, lock/unlock feedback switch, and the door ajar switch. The door lock actuators operate in 2 directions, depending on the polarity of the voltage. The door latches can be lubricated, if needed.

BD

 

[K4fxd]

Thanks.

 

[Mike Pfeifer]

Can you read out real time status of the door adjar switch with forscan? If so, you could see if the switch (built into the latch) is faulty by watching to see if the switch is showing open / closed when the window jumps up and down. If the BCM is *not* seeing the door opening and closing while the window is misbehaving, you can assume the switch / latch assembly will not fix it. Also, does the dome light go on and off with the window? Could be a clue there as well.

 

[Buldawg76]

If Forscan can show that signal and other DDM/PDM signals it would be a great way to determine the root cause for sure. I have no clue if it can see those signals.

I know when my window was doing the dance the interior lamps never came on at all and it did it while I was driving it as well as parked.

BD

 

[K4fxd]

If Forscan can show that signal and other DDM/PDM signals it would be a great way to determine the root cause for sure.

I'll hook up forscan and try to see if this shows up.

I'm really leaning toward the door switch since the motor plug is filled with dielectric grease and sometimes the window will go down when I open the door and stay down after I close it.

Don't know about the interior lights as I have mine in police dark mode. I hate it when the lights stay on after I leave the car.

 

[Buldawg76]

Let us know if Forscan works for this, I have the cable and a laptop but just not really comfortable with messing with it and possibly causing some unrepairable issue due to changing something I have no understanding about.

BD

 

[shogun32]

due to changing something I have no understanding about.

So, don't change values you know nothing about?

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