Is Performance Package worth it?

[nastang87xx]

The torsen is a much better differential for putting power down and for longevity than the clutch pack, and the 3.73 gears it is paired with gives the car better gearing for most track use. At $2500-3000 it is a no brainer. At today's $4000? Less so for sure, but there's a lot to be said for OEM integration of all that, even if you simply change springs and dampers.

In a performance application that limited slip diff on the base cars definitely struggle a bit with transitions too. I also think that you get more dividend from the GT's Performance Pack than the Ecoboost's Performance Pack despite the $1500 price delta. I mean if we're talking STRICTLY a DD though, there is absolutely no reason to get either PP's on either car unless you just intrinsically want it which I totally understand. But if you have to ask............

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[Maggneto]

Same comparison on the '18 model and the EB PP stops slightly shorter than the GT PP, although they both fail to match those earlier numbers.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a24847025/2018-ford-mustang-automatic-transmission-performance/

More to the point that EB PP number is 11 feet shorter than their earlier test of a base EB.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a19862434/2018-ford-mustang-23l-ecoboost-manual-test-review/

A larger radius rotor can produce more braking torque. A larger, sticker tire can produce more braking force. That's born out in the test results.

My own experience in test driving was that the PP brakes felt better in both stopping force and modulation. As I said, it really should come down to a test drive. Nail some brakes and decide for yourself.

Great find. I am surprised the 2015 braking distances are different than 2018 results. I would have guessed the results would be nearly identical. I guess there were some unknown variables that impacted the results.

The difference between the EB base and EB PP braking difference of 11 feet is quite significant.

 

[Maggneto]

In a performance application that limited slip diff on the base cars definitely struggle a bit with transitions too. I also think that you get more dividend from the GT's Performance Pack than the Ecoboost's Performance Pack despite the $1500 price delta. I mean if we're talking STRICTLY a DD though, there is absolutely no reason to get either PP's on either car unless you just intrinsically want it which I totally understand. But if you have to ask............

Hmmmm, your post shows that you replied to a quote from me, but it was not my quote.

I completely disagree with your assessment that there is no reason to get the PP on DD. The car will handle better, and brake better then a non PP car. Those are some very good reasons to opt for the PP car, but a non PP will get you to your destination.

My Mom wants a convertible so I will be taking her to look and test drive Mustangs. I don't think she will be needing the performance package.

 

[BmacIL]

In a performance application that limited slip diff on the base cars definitely struggle a bit with transitions too. I also think that you get more dividend from the GT's Performance Pack than the Ecoboost's Performance Pack despite the $1500 price delta. I mean if we're talking STRICTLY a DD though, there is absolutely no reason to get either PP's on either car unless you just intrinsically want it which I totally understand. But if you have to ask............

Mine is toast from autocross. Track use will toast it too.

I think for anyone who likes their DD to have competent handling, the PP is worth it. The base is overly soft and wallowy.

 

[barron64]

I transitioned from a highly modded turbo Miata to a Mustang. I tracked my Miata occasionally, did a fair amount of spirited driving on the mountain roads in north GA, east Tenn, and NC etc. It had a torsen limited slip, upgraded suspension, upgraded brakes, cooling system etc. I used the car in a way that took advantage of these upgrades. Moving to a Mustang GT, there was no way I was not going to drive the car in a similar way as I drove the Miata. I am also a gear head and a car nut so yeah, I did not want to give up all the upgrades my Miata already had. If you just plan to use the car as an appliance to get you from point A to point B, in a sporty looking car, no need for the PP. If however you plan on enjoying the car for the driving experience, plan on a track day or two and you can appreciate the upgrades, by all means get the PP1.

 

[Ed M]

My Mom wants a convertible so I will be taking her to look and test drive Mustangs. I don't think she will be needing the performance package.

Maybe you don’t want a PP1 ‘vert, but what does your Mom want? PP1+MR in an ‘18+ vert is amazing!

 

[Ed M]

I can’t vote because you didn’t list Performance Package Convertible.

 

[320guy]

The GT PP is worth it. Brembos, torsen and radiator by itself are, and you get a lot more than that even if you replace the springs and dampers. I don't think the PP for the EB is. You still get brakes that won't hold up to track use and no torsen diff. This new Handling package for the EB, however, looks very good, but will depend on the price.

Just to make it clear.

-2018 and 2019 EB PP HAVE the torsen differential.

-The 2015-2017 DON’T have the torsen.

-The 2020, the torsen will be available for the PP with the Handling Package. If you do not get the handling package, there’s no torsen.


Here are the specifications of the 2018/2019 EB PP. IMO for $2500 is a decent price.

The EcoBoost® Performance Package includes:
• 3.55 TORSEN® Limited-slip Rear-Axle
• 19-inch Low-gloss Ebony Black-painted Aluminum Wheels
• 255/40R19 Summer-Only Tires*
• Black Painted Strut-tower Brace
• "Engine Spun" Aluminum Instrument Panel**
• Gauge Pack (Oil Pressure and Boost)
• Heavy-duty Front Springs
• Larger Brake Rotors with Four-Piston Fixed Calipers
• Larger Radiator
• Performance Rear Wing (Fastback Only)
• Spoiler Delete (Convertible Only)
• Unique Chassis Tuning
• Unique EPAS, ABS and Stability Control Tuning
• Upsized Rear Sway Bar

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

Don't know if it has been mentioned but the ecoboost with the PP1 gets the 14" brakes from the standard GT and replacement parts are cheaper. I bought a PP1 car because I wanted the big brakes, but I don't track the car it's just a weekend toy.

The OP should just get a non pp car if he's just going to DD it. He can always upgrade to the PP1 brakes if he wants them. The 15" brembo kit from ford racing is available thru LMR and american muscle for around 1300 new.

 

[Maggneto]

Don't know if it has been mentioned but the ecoboost with the PP1 gets the 14" brakes from the standard GT and replacement parts are cheaper. I bought a PP1 car because I wanted the big brakes, but I don't track the car it's just a weekend toy.

The OP should just get a non pp car if he's just going to DD it. He can always upgrade to the PP1 brakes if he wants them. The 15" brembo kit from ford racing is available thru LMR and american muscle for around 1300 new.

The cheapest way to upgrade brakes is to find base GT take offs and swap them on the base EB. There have been a couple of posts on the Ecoboost.Net forum of this procedure and is it a plug and play application. Much cheaper and easier than a Brembo upgrade which I think includes some other upgrades? Members that have done the GT base brake upgrade on the base Ecoboost find it to be a much improved braking experience.

GT take offs can be found for a few hundred bucks.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

The cheapest way to upgrade brakes is to find base GT take offs and swap them on the base EB. There have been a couple of posts on the Ecoboost.Net forum of this procedure and is it a plug and play application. Much cheaper and easier than a Brembo upgrade which I think includes some other upgrades? Members that have done the GT base brake upgrade on the base Ecoboost find it to be a much improved braking experience.

GT take offs can be found for a few hundred bucks.

GT brakes are a dime a dozen on ebay. Ive seen em for $150.

 

[canyon ed]

Don't know if it has been mentioned but the ecoboost with the PP1 gets the 14" brakes from the standard GT and replacement parts are cheaper. I bought a PP1 car because I wanted the big brakes, but I don't track the car it's just a weekend toy.

The OP should just get a non pp car if he's just going to DD it. He can always upgrade to the PP1 brakes if he wants them. The 15" brembo kit from ford racing is available thru LMR and american muscle for around 1300 new.

Bought my Brembos for $400 from Shelby on Ebay

 

[Todd00000]

The cheapest way to upgrade brakes is to find base GT take offs and swap them on the base EB. There have been a couple of posts on the Ecoboost.Net forum of this procedure and is it a plug and play application. Much cheaper and easier than a Brembo upgrade which I think includes some other upgrades? Members that have done the GT base brake upgrade on the base Ecoboost find it to be a much improved braking experience.

GT take offs can be found for a few hundred bucks.

The base GT brakes are excellent. The best thing one can do to improve braking performance is to take HP/AutoX driving lessons! After that air, air, air to the rotors, stainless steel caliper pistons, and high temp fluid; and then some more lessons. Using this formula I made sliding calipers work on my 2002 Z06 with 1,000 miles on the Nurburgring. Chased a 911 one day and his fluid was boiling over when we got back to the parking lot. LOL

 

[Hack]

If you are annoyed by the wallowing of the base suspension, then the PP is a good idea to reduce body motions. That is one thing I really appreciate in street driving about a more firm suspension. However, if the body motion of the base car doesn't bother you, IMO there's no reason to get the PP for street driving.

You don't need big brakes for the street. I always have to look in my rear view before hitting the brakes, and I have to keep in mind that if there's anyone at all behind me I can't use the brakes hard. So, IMO big brakes on the street aren't safer than the standard Mustang brakes. Modern Fords stop pretty well. Bigger brakes will just end up costing you more to service and you will probably never use them to their full potential on the street. If you do, you are driving pretty irresponsibly on public streets.

 

[Monopoly]

If you plan on modding esp wheels/rims/suspension/brakes go non-PP and build the car the way you want like a blank sheet of canvas. esp if u do the work yourself you can save money doing this.

If you plan on going bone stock stick to PP.

Vert or Coupe is personal preference.

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