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The hpp is the old pp1 + active exhaust and pp1 under tray. 6200 for 3500 worth of actual content. It's a rip off IMO and no, the engine still falls on its face like you hit it with an oar to the face. You MUST get a tune for it to work properly. And rip out that worthless intercooler.

I too had a 19 eb pp and got out even money when the market insanity was early days. Some guy in NJ has my n4g beauty. I wonder if they noticed all the mods done to it that no doubt went unmentioned.
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I actually found some new '21's in differnet colors online by searching in my "free" time (what little bit there is)

Found one I like, but it's 17 hour drive-one way. I could make a vacation out of it, BUT, vacation time is quite hard to get, and we don't get much of it; leaving unpaid days off for sickness or whatever. It's only April.

I had thought about having it shipped here. Never done it before so I'm weary of doing that. I deal with shipping companies on a daily basis, just not cars. So I'm aware, and nervous.

Never bought a new car, ever, in my 46 years of existence. Newest one was 3 years old when I got it (2003 F-150 Lightning). Great truck. DSG. I wish they still made a newer version, EB 3.5 2wd, I'd probably buy one.

Ain't much around here. A few 2022's but that's it, and most are YELLOW (which I hate...had a yellow race car for a while), or I did find a 21 Iconic 200A which I liked until I saw the RED seating....nope, ain't having it, end of story.

200A is what I want, I don't need the rest of the stuff that the 201A has, and the 201A additional features add more cost, which I can't see it being worth in comparison. Problem is, there are like 3 200A's in stock in the entire USA and none within 15 hours' drive.

I don't need HPP, nor do I want to spend the money for it. I'd take one if the dealer discounted it to what a 200A costs but they usually don't. A 201A HP is the same cost as a 400A around here.

I have a self-imposed budget and I need to stay close to that number. Not that I don't have it, I just don't want to let go of it.

As I said I had the 19 and was pleased with it. Was it fast? LOL, nope. But spirited enough for me not to get too bored with.
 

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Not a fan of orange either. Or "grabber blue". The green? I can't say I'd never own it, but would rather have something else. I have a green fox body and a green truck already. I guess black would be ok although not my first choice. First choice would be atlas blue, then iconic silver, then carbonized gray, then mischevious purple, then dark matter--in that order.
 

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yeah I thought about doing a 101A and adding Katzkin. Guy I used to work with used to be an installer, however he quit doing it and now....ain't nobody in the area doing it. Done checked on it already.

A base 200A is all I want and dealers want to add on stripe, spare, floor mats, B&O, and everything else and then you're at GT pricing. Some of the options are really a waste of money but they kind of force you into them unless you're really careful.

I work at a dealer as well and understand/respect upselling but they won't be selling me a car if they can't find or order what I want. I have a budget that I am sticking to, period.

Reminds me...in 2005 when I bought my 2003 Lightning, I was at the dealer and I told them what my budget was. He comes back with a counteroffer that was over $100/mo more than my budget. I said that's not (x amount) is it? And turned around & walked out the door. I'm a jerk when it comes to buying a car. It's not about being "that guy", it's about my situation. I have a self-imposed limit on what I can spend and that's it. Can't get close to that I ain't buying, end of story.

I've contacted 23 dealers. Out of those, 6 have returned my calls and have interest in selling and/or or ordering. I am about to pull the trigger on one in Florida, about 1500 miles away, dealer says they can have it sent to me on a transporter (for a fee of course). Problem is as of right now, it's a "brand new" 21 model, that has 2900 miles on it (according to the dealer salespeson who is looking into it). Maybe a loaner or something? Dunno. Another one in Illinois, same car, similar price. Also 1500 miles, so it'd have to be transported to me as well.
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