How does your dealer react to using Ceratec?

[AZ_Ryan]

I could see if you are paying attention to the oil you might see it’s different (debatable but sure). But then you’re saying the stoned teen isn’t paying attention, so which

In your 15 yrs as a Master Tech did you often void warranty over suspected additives? Or did no one care and this is whole tread can be summarized as “the dealer DNGAF about ceratec”?

Sheepdog never said anything about voiding warranties.

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[Sean22]

Crack the cap off slowly look them in the eye and pour it up their ass no homo

Bruh

 

[ORRadtech]

Well, regardless of how any dealer reacts (or doesn't) at an oil change I think it's extremely unlikely that anyone is going to say anything. If an oil change person does notice, just explain what's in it and why. That should be the end of it. Even should they make a note in the car's records, so what? It would be totally irrelevant unless / until you have to try to get an engine repaired under warranty.
At that point, per Magnuson Moss, they have to prove the additive caused the failure. They aren't even going to try and, if they did, would cave with pushback.
Ceratek is a product sold and used worldwide. It claims to meet industry standards and, if proven to be at fault, will replace damaged parts.
https://www.liqui-moly.com/en/us/products/warranty.html
Bottom line, use the stuff if you want and quit worrying about the dealer reaction.

 

[JetGray_Mach1]

Do whatever makes you tick. I would just do my own oil changes if you want to add that Additive.

 

[Ozcraig]

Cool!

Hmmmm you kind of wonder if the tick prompted the manual change indicating 5W-30. We'll never know.

My 2017 Australian GT came with 5W-30 from factory due to our warmer climate. The car's manual calls for it.

 

[Dave2013M3]

My 2017 Australian GT came with 5W-30 from factory due to our warmer climate. The car's manual calls for it.

It still ticks with 5W-30...

 

[Daryl333]

Well, I'm not sure 5w-30 is all that helpful.

From what ive read, most people who have used Ceratec report the tick unusually immediately goes away as they pour in the bottle. I don't think it's because Ceratec is thicker.

I used Cera tec for the tic for years and it worked. When I went FI I upped the oil weight to 5 30 and not 50 like Whipple says cause its a lot colder up here. The tic went away and I no longer use Cera-Tec.

 

[Daryl333]

How?

Maybe you can't see it on the dipstick but when the oil is drained into the waste pan the oil is milky brown. You can tell right away.

 

[Daryl333]

I don't think you are up to speed on the typewriter tick. It's primarily on the 3rd gen coyotes, and isn't caused by Ceratec. Rather, Ceratec is being used to stop it.

I had it on my 2017. It started at around 13,000 miles. And yes Cera-Tec stopped it and when I went with a blower and upped the oil weight to 5/30 it went away and hasn't come back at 25,000 miles.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

For those of you wondering how people can tell...

Your oil looks like a milkshake if you use the recommended amount.

 

[Daryl333]

Never did. It is basically impossible to prove that an additive caused a failure, and although I generally put most additives in a "snake oil" designation, Ceratec does seem to have some merit in regards to the BBQ tick, however I think it is just masking the resonance of the sound, not actually treating the problem but I'll let the forum warriors debate over that.

If a dealership Service manager really wants to be a dick, they could send the oil out for analysis if a car came in with an engine failure of some sort, in an effort to void the warranty, but they would have to prove that the additive was the cause of the failure

Engine failures were pretty much always due to lack of maintenance. Leaks that were not addressed and caused low oil levels. Other mechanical failures from manufacturing flaws. Fuel delivery issues causing lean conditions. Overheating issues etc.

As stated they (tech) spotted my milky waste oil right away. Came out and asked if I knew there was a coolant leak. This was in 2018 when they were changing out a lot of shortbl9cks due to scoring on the cylinder walls. I was shocked and when we went and looked I told them it was Cera-Tec. Tech had called service manager when he thought it was coolant. We had a short discussion why it was in my oil but no consequences and no answers about the tic. But afterwards the manager did speak to me off the record about it. He said he thought it was caused by excessive end play in the Crank Thrust Bearing. But said he would never put it on paper.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I had it on my 2017. It started at around 13,000 miles. And yes Cera-Tec stopped it and when I went with a blower and upped the oil weight to 5/30 it went away and hasn't come back at 25,000 miles.

Weird that so many people say it goes away or got better with 5w-30. Ford has been using 5w-30 in coyotes since 2021 and most cars still have it. I suspect the oil brand has more to do with it.

 

[JetGray_Mach1]

For those of you wondering how people can tell...

Your oil looks like a milkshake if you use the recommended amount.

Looking at that makes me nervous. That color is forbidden in oil

 

[Daryl333]

Weird that so many people say it goes away or got better with 5w-30. Ford has been using 5w-30 in coyotes since 2021 and most cars still have it. I suspect the oil brand has more to do with it.

Now that you mention different brands I did change from Mobile 1, 5/20 to
Motul 5/30 when I went FI.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

As stated they (tech) spotted my milky waste oil right away. Came out and asked if I knew there was a coolant leak. This was in 2018 when they were changing out a lot of shortbl9cks due to scoring on the cylinder walls. I was shocked and when we went and looked I told them it was Cera-Tec. Tech had called service manager when he thought it was coolant. We had a short discussion why it was in my oil but no consequences and no answers about the tic. But afterwards the manager did speak to me off the record about it. He said he thought it was caused by excessive end play in the Crank Thrust Bearing. But said he would never put it on paper.

Well that was in 2018 when this was a new thing, everyone had a theory, the internet was in a tizzy, and Ford was actually warranting engines over it. Fast forward 5 years and coyotes are still doing it, but no cause has ever been found and Ford says it's normal.

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