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12800 miles and not a problem here on the R wheels. Stuff happens, though and to each their own. I thought about swapping them for a moment but I bought an engineered package, I'd like to drive it that way, or as close to it as possible (minus sport cup 2s!) :)
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12800 miles and not a problem here on the R wheels. Stuff happens, though and to each their own. I thought about swapping them for a moment but I bought an engineered package, I'd like to drive it that way, or as close to it as possible (minus sport cup 2s!) :)
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I'm more of a pseudo collector, I got each of the cars to enjoy with no expectation of increasing in future value. If I would have wanted my investment to grow, I would have invested the money in a Vanguard growth fund. Mustangs are all about fun! I would not trade up to an R model for future collectability, the only reason would be for an increase in performance for the few track days I can get to with my work schedule. And because they are cool!
Based on your earlier post you mentioned being a collector on a couple of occasions and also brought up a concern with respect to a depreciating value for some of these cars thus I took your response of being more than just a "pseudo collector" but obviously I was wrong on assuming your intentions.

Aside as to whether you are a collector or not a move from a Track Pack GT350 to an R model in a no brainer if you are truly looking for improved and increased performance based on myself and numerous others on this forum having driven both cars and I think we all agree that the difference between the two cars is significant.

If you get a chance to drive an R in controlled conditions it will not take you very long to understand the significant difference between the two cars.

BTW, what color is your 2013 LS and your chassis number as I have owned a number of 2012/2013 LS's and really like these cars a great deal?

Good luck going forward.

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As a side note for performance. I really want to see some lap times on the 2019 GT350 with the performance pack and Cup 2’s.
 

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As others have said the R is a more capable car out of the box. There are significant differences across suspension, exhaust, body and engine. It’s a topic of much debate. I doubt the newly modified 2019 gt350 will challenge the untouched R from previous years.

Can the non-R close the gap with changes and work? Absolutely. Main advantage of the R in my mind is value. Go try and buy those cf wheels and wing and you’ll spend approx 20k. Then add up all the other suspension parts. Point is you’ll spend a lot more to make the non R equivalent than it would cost just to buy the R. The other big advantage is rarity and value. I enjoy having 1 of only 2500-ish cars out there. This is also likely the last year of R production which means value goes up even more.
 

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I still can’t understand buying an R and changing the rims. A forged set with tires will be $6,000. All this the prevent a what if? And at the expense of taking away one of the best parts that makes and R an R

I don’t piss $6,000 but for what I’ll use my car for, I’ll keep the CF Wheels
Right at $5,500 total to include replacement OEM TPMS, mounted and balanced with MPSS 4S 325 rears and 305 fronts. One CF wheel only replacement is $4,200 +. The CF wheels don't make an R an R on the commute to work or around town. They make an R an R on the track. I would argue that daily commuting CF wheels is a gross misuse of them for which nothing good can happen. With my set up at home, swapping back to the CF wheels is not a deal. I can do it in under 15 minutes...by myself. If I ever go to C&C or a some other sort of get together, I'll probably swap back. I'd also like to point out that the Signature wheels I got are forged obviously and very light weight and track tested. Not trading in 18 lbs wheels for 30 lbs wheels or anything. There might be a 2 lbs difference per wheel. And the titanium lug nuts from Terrance offset the heavy OEM lug nuts. Lets just say, my R isn't all of the sudden a handling slush bucket.
 

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Right at $5,500 total to include replacement OEM TPMS, mounted and balanced with MPSS 4S 325 rears and 305 fronts. One CF wheel only replacement is $4,200 +. The CF wheels don't make an R an R on the commute to work or around town. They make an R an R on the track. I would argue that daily commuting CF wheels is a gross misuse of them for which nothing good can happen. With my set up at home, swapping back to the CF wheels is not a deal. I can do it in under 15 minutes...by myself. If I ever go to C&C or a some other sort of get together, I'll probably swap back. I'd also like to point out that the Signature wheels I got are forged obviously and very light weight and track tested. Not trading in 18 lbs wheels for 30 lbs wheels or anything. There might be a 2 lbs difference per wheel. And the titanium lug nuts from Terrance offset the heavy OEM lug nuts. Lets just say, my R isn't all of the sudden a handling slush bucket.
Very well said. Nailed it.

Again, although the sum of the parts makes the R great, it is the VIN that makes the R rare and unique. CF vs forged on the street isnt much a difference.
 

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I agree with everyone hear that the R is special and if an opportunity came along to jump into an R at a decent price, I’d probably have one.
 

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Agreed 100% on using the carbon wheels for commuting around town. I have a set a Forge Stars for DD and only use my carbons and cup2s for the track. I also don't need cup2's for the street either. I have a 3 day event at Road America in July and my cup2's will be done so I will see what I replace them with, thinking about a slick but we will see.
 

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I agree with everyone hear that the R is special and if an opportunity came along to jump into an R at a decent price, I’d probably have one.
What's your idea of a decent price? Do you like triple yellow?
 

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I still can’t understand buying an R and changing the rims. A forged set with tires will be $6,000. All this the prevent a what if? And at the expense of taking away one of the best parts that makes and R an R

I don’t piss $6,000 but for what I’ll use my car for, I’ll keep the CF Wheels
6k??? Lol much more affordable options for a street wheel. I spent 2k and got tires. :giggle:
My CF wheels are track only now and that's where they shine
 

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Based on your earlier post you mentioned being a collector on a couple of occasions and also brought up a concern with respect to a depreciating value for some of these cars thus I took your response of being more than just a "pseudo collector" but obviously I was wrong on assuming your intentions.

Aside as to whether you are a collector or not a move from a Track Pack GT350 to an R model in a no brainer if you are truly looking for improved and increased performance based on myself and numerous others on this forum having driven both cars and I think we all agree that the difference between the two cars is significant.

If you get a chance to drive an R in controlled conditions it will not take you very long to understand the significant difference between the two cars.

BTW, what color is your 2013 LS and your chassis number as I have owned a number of 2012/2013 LS's and really like these cars a great deal?

Good luck going forward.

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A pseudo collector more accurately describes me. Sometimes there is no rhyme or reason to what I get except they are all mustangs. Something just appeals to me and I go after it. I got my Track Pack 16 when they were really hard to find, it was slightly used. First owner got an R (he posts on here occasionally). I was looking for a Boss at the time and fell across the CL add. I finally got the Boss (LS585 , black) (the black LS appeals to me more) after a deviation with the Bullitt. I wanted a 13 because of the hockey stick stripe and the 70 boss is a car I'd like to own before I die. The Bullitt is just a great all around car, very fun to cruise. I never really consider depreciating value much, these aren't investments, I'd be happy if they just retained their value. I am thinking about an R, got some business deals to get through in the next few weeks before I do anything else. Maybe flip my 350 and 500 and get an R and spend the difference on money down on a terminator. Maybe that triple yellow one will still be available, very sharp.
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