From GT 350 to GT 350R

Discussion in 'Shelby GT350 Mustang' started by VoodooPower, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. fpa1974

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    I am in the process of doing the same (waiting for my 19R). I had the chance to actually drive one (thanks @Tomster ) which reinforced my decision to do it. For me the track pack GT350 is close but even with trying to replicate the handling of the R while I got close with FP springs, rear sway bar, lightweight wheels and Cup2s is not quite the same. I guess the biggest difference to me was how balanced the R feels.

    Congrats and enjoy it!
     
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    Just to add to what Tom had to say about the difference between a Track Pack car and an R model October 2015 I was very fortunate to test drive a 2016 Track Pack car back to back with a 2016 R model at Sebring with the difference being significant to say the least especially after I was able to sit in the jump seat of a couple R models that day with a professional driver taking charge of the driving duties.

    We were on a short course a Sebring and specifically remember the speeds that we were able to establish in certain parts of the road course with the R model well ahead of the Track Pack car.

    Don't get me wrong as the Track Pack cars are very fast but with the CF wheels, Cup 2 tires, stiffer springs, larger anti sway bars, lower center of gravity and a reduced unsprung weight the R is a faster vehicle on a road course.

    As far as justifying the extra cost for an R I would suggest it all comes down to each individual owner and as Tom mentioned the rarity of an R does come into play especially if you are like some of us older enthusiasts that really like the elusive Base R model.

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    Not the base 2016 model.
     
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    Thats what I thought. I thought the tech pack gt350's without track pack had magneride, but just lacked transmission coolers and some other minor stuff
     
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    Funny you bought then asked the Forum. Seems you already knew there is a difference..it is tangible. And like Tomster, I want an additional R for my collection.
     
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    I would say the difference isn't as noticeable with the 2019 350. The new cup 2's the R front closeout with the new swing out back and gurney flap along with adjustable camber plates I think puts them close. The one thing you will feel different in the R is the reduced un-sprung weight from the wheels which on the track can feel a lot different but besides that not really noticeable.
     
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    I think it’s a smart move based on the rarity alone. That means something to me at least
     
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    For a road experience, probably not a huge one. When I did the track attack in a base 350, I absolutely noticed a downgrade from my R. Still a great time, but the wheels and tires and extra force make for a much faster car in the corners.

    Doesn’t make sense to me to pay the money to mod a base car toward an R, most of the cost will be wasted while an R will hold better value long term for sure, especially if this is the last big NA flat plane!
     
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    If you have the dough to buy tires a lot more often and to not worry about damaging a set of carbon fiber rims that will cost a lot of money to replace, then the R is for you. There's no doubt it's a better driving car than the regular GT350 with the stickier tires and the CF rims on it. It might be a little more of a pain to drive on the street (dragging the low slung front splitter and the tires throwing rocks onto your paint), but those aren't nearly as big a deal as the rims and tires.

    Also if you aren't going to use the car much and it will mostly sit in your garage, the R might be a better choice. It should depreciate less.

    I feel as though I'm stretching my finances somewhat with the GT350, so I like having tires that will last 3 or more times as long. I'd love to have CF rims if they cost $500 each or something, but I prefer to own a vehicle I don't worry about using as a car. I don't want it sitting in my garage with me afraid to damage something I can't afford to replace. I never really considered an R.
     
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    I had a 16 Track pack that was tracked. I wanted to gain performance near R capabilities with mods. The cost difference of modding or buying the R to me was a no brainer. The CF "wheels alone are worth the price of admission." Matt Farah
    As far as performance goes, I purchased a base R, #33 of 526 for 2016. IMO night and day difference between the two cars. Wheels biggest factor, everything else in suspension and weight compliments the car. Night and day. Oh! I forgot! I am significantly faster in the R at my local track.
     
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    I did test drive the R on the street, but never tracked. The R will definitely be a better track car, but the regular 350 is a better street car... for many reasons mentioned above; for me, the suspension felt significantly firmer on the R and our roads are horrible. I am sure I would scratch and damage those expensive wheels..
    And then was the price; at the time, I could not swallow close to 80k price... For another 10k, I could jump into a F430, which is probably my next car.
    Looking now at prices, today; I could probably justify a jump to an R if I would track at least once a month...
     
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    And now non R GT350's for 2019 have MagRide damper, steering, & ABS is re tuned for the new aero & PSC2 tires so its a growing matrix depending on what one is buying new or used.
     
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    There is actually quite a bit more differences in the two cars with specific part numbers. I believe there is thread with the list and yes even the engines have differences. Don shoot the messenger. Just do the research.
     
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    That would depend on if these cars become collectables in the future or depreciate to the point where they are just a car. The view points are interesting to me, as I was considering bumping up to an R from a 16 track pack. In addition to driving, looking at, occasionally tracking, I'm also kind of a collector, hence the 302 LS, Bullitt, GT500 etc. I'm still on the fence, if the right deal came along I would take it no doubt.
     
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    I don't think the op is looking to buy this car to be a collector piece. An R will hold much better value than any other Mustang even the standard GT350. That hould be important to any car buyer. I had my car appraised for a possibl trade in on a 2015 GT3. I was offered almost 65K with 11k miles at the time. That was just a couple of months ago. I didn't do no where near as well when I got rid of my 16 track pack with 8k miles.
     
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