From GT 350 to GT 350R

Discussion in 'Shelby GT350 Mustang' started by VoodooPower, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. Bulldogs22

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    I would say the difference isn't as noticeable with the 2019 350. The new cup 2's the R front closeout with the new swing out back and gurney flap along with adjustable camber plates I think puts them close. The one thing you will feel different in the R is the reduced un-sprung weight from the wheels which on the track can feel a lot different but besides that not really noticeable.
     
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    I think it’s a smart move based on the rarity alone. That means something to me at least
     
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    For a road experience, probably not a huge one. When I did the track attack in a base 350, I absolutely noticed a downgrade from my R. Still a great time, but the wheels and tires and extra force make for a much faster car in the corners.

    Doesn’t make sense to me to pay the money to mod a base car toward an R, most of the cost will be wasted while an R will hold better value long term for sure, especially if this is the last big NA flat plane!
     
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    If you have the dough to buy tires a lot more often and to not worry about damaging a set of carbon fiber rims that will cost a lot of money to replace, then the R is for you. There's no doubt it's a better driving car than the regular GT350 with the stickier tires and the CF rims on it. It might be a little more of a pain to drive on the street (dragging the low slung front splitter and the tires throwing rocks onto your paint), but those aren't nearly as big a deal as the rims and tires.

    Also if you aren't going to use the car much and it will mostly sit in your garage, the R might be a better choice. It should depreciate less.

    I feel as though I'm stretching my finances somewhat with the GT350, so I like having tires that will last 3 or more times as long. I'd love to have CF rims if they cost $500 each or something, but I prefer to own a vehicle I don't worry about using as a car. I don't want it sitting in my garage with me afraid to damage something I can't afford to replace. I never really considered an R.
     
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    I had a 16 Track pack that was tracked. I wanted to gain performance near R capabilities with mods. The cost difference of modding or buying the R to me was a no brainer. The CF "wheels alone are worth the price of admission." Matt Farah
    As far as performance goes, I purchased a base R, #33 of 526 for 2016. IMO night and day difference between the two cars. Wheels biggest factor, everything else in suspension and weight compliments the car. Night and day. Oh! I forgot! I am significantly faster in the R at my local track.
     
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    I did test drive the R on the street, but never tracked. The R will definitely be a better track car, but the regular 350 is a better street car... for many reasons mentioned above; for me, the suspension felt significantly firmer on the R and our roads are horrible. I am sure I would scratch and damage those expensive wheels..
    And then was the price; at the time, I could not swallow close to 80k price... For another 10k, I could jump into a F430, which is probably my next car.
    Looking now at prices, today; I could probably justify a jump to an R if I would track at least once a month...
     
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    And now non R GT350's for 2019 have MagRide damper, steering, & ABS is re tuned for the new aero & PSC2 tires so its a growing matrix depending on what one is buying new or used.
     
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    There is actually quite a bit more differences in the two cars with specific part numbers. I believe there is thread with the list and yes even the engines have differences. Don shoot the messenger. Just do the research.
     
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    That would depend on if these cars become collectables in the future or depreciate to the point where they are just a car. The view points are interesting to me, as I was considering bumping up to an R from a 16 track pack. In addition to driving, looking at, occasionally tracking, I'm also kind of a collector, hence the 302 LS, Bullitt, GT500 etc. I'm still on the fence, if the right deal came along I would take it no doubt.
     
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    I don't think the op is looking to buy this car to be a collector piece. An R will hold much better value than any other Mustang even the standard GT350. That hould be important to any car buyer. I had my car appraised for a possibl trade in on a 2015 GT3. I was offered almost 65K with 11k miles at the time. That was just a couple of months ago. I didn't do no where near as well when I got rid of my 16 track pack with 8k miles.
     
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    It's interesting to hear Auto Fanatic's recent video on the GT350 (non-R) and his prediction that a pristine GT350 (non-R) will be valued around $150K - $250K in the next 10-15 years. FWIW, the 9-minute mark:

     
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    It wasn't my intention to derail the thread into an argument of collectability and speculation. I was trying to find out if there was enough real world performance difference for me to consider the upgrade. I guess I will have to find one I can drive.
     
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    I highly doubt that it will be true but I'll certainly be happy if it is.
     
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    The Carbon Fiber wheels and spoiler retail for more than $15k-$20k (at least 2 years ago they did). The brakes are the same, just different color.

    Drive them both and you tell me.

    From experience, the R feels like a different car. It feels more connected and 500 lbs lighter. The CF wheels are amazing and you can feel the difference on the street (and more so on track). When I swap out to my BC Forged wheels (on Cup 2's) the car feels heavier.
     
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    You should probably get rid of the forged wheels and use the carbon fiber ones. Seems like a waste to have the carbon fiber wheels just sitting around. From everything I've read, they are the biggest difference between the GT350 and R version, and they are what makes the R so amazing to drive.
     
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    #36 Zitrosounds, Apr 19, 2019
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    I track my CF wheels. I drove on the CF wheels until I was run off the road and curbed both wheels. No biggie. Insurance paid to have them replaced. However, because of that in incident I will no longer street ride the CF wheels. To much hassle to go through for repair or replacement. So I purchased a set of disposable wheels and tires.
     
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    #37 Onyx, Apr 19, 2019
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    I had a GT350 and had a few mods done,
    Ford Performance springs
    Ford Performance AOS both sides
    Ford performance filter ( airaid )
    Vorshlag CC plates
    Steeda Gtrac brace
    Steeda Clutch spring
    BMR Rear lockout kit
    Resonator delete
    I de modded the car when I got rid of it and it was not even a second thought on what to buy, I bought a GT350R. I absolutely hands down love the car. There is a difference between the two cars that you will notice. Also as most have said the car will hold a better value than a GT350. Its truly IMO the best mustang made available to date. I haven't even done any of my mods yet as I am having to much fun driving it! Enjoy as they both are great cars, I just feel the R is worth the extra money and you cant replicate it modifying a GT350 VS just buying the R.
     
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    I completely understand why you are doing that, but it sucks that you paid for an R and you are giving up arguably one of the best features of it vs. the GT350.

    I can't imagine people run you off the road very often. It's never happened to me in 35+ years of driving.

    edit: I wonder how much different the insurance costs are.
     
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    You obviously do not live in Madison County Alabama. Lol driving is pretty bad here. Statistically one of the worst states for drivers.
     
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    I sold my 350 to buy an R. I haven't driven one either but, Its an R, Come on
     
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