Failed Emissions on New Ecoboost?

[Dave2013M3]

Well I gave up on the stage 0 and am now back to full stock, no tune at all. That really should get rid of any variables that would keep the sensors being stuck on a not ready status. I should go through a few drive cycles today. The stage 0 tune seemed to work except the EVAP system was the only one that would not come back on. Fingers crossed this fixed it.

You are fine with just the EVAP not showing ready. Dave

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[NoVaGT]

What did you not understand?

In red. You're speaking your own language. Be plain.

Flashed OST 93 tune and all the sensors came on except for the catalyst.. switched to stage 0 stock tune for another attempt. To go full stock do I have to unmarry the AP?

 

[BoostedScarlett]

Just curious about how a "Burble Tune" actually achieves the "burble" - does it create an intermittent overly lean or rich condition to do so?

I cannot confidently explain how it works but basically it dumps extra fuel that isn’t burned off and will ignite in the exhaust. Someone please correct me because I feel like I’m missing points here but that is what I think it is.

 

[BoostedScarlett]

In red. You're speaking your own language. Be plain.

Ost - off the shelf. This is a pre loaded Cobb tune. They have a stage 0 tune which is supposed to be stock. Unmarrry means to basically uninstall the AccessPort to regain your factory tune.

 

[BoostedScarlett]

You are fine with just the EVAP not showing ready. Dave

Yes this worked!! Thanks for letting me know that. Now that I have passed emissions, back to modding for another year!!! I was gonna keep driving until that monitor turned on.

 

[Idaho2018GTPremium]

You're paying $25 a year for absolutely nothing, nothing at all, and you're acting like I'm the stupid one?

His point is he isn't inconvenienced every year having to take his car into a smog shop plus having to pay $18. Plus, he could modify his car and not worry about the smog testing for up to 8 years. The $25 is probably for registration, which is required in a lot (all?) of states anyway. Given the choice, I'd gladly pay $7 more so I didn't have to take the car in every year AND be able to modify the car without worrying about smog for 8 years. My time and mileage on the car is worth more than that. $7/year is not even a blip on the financial radar.

 

[BLU-PNY]

I cannot confidently explain how it works but basically it dumps extra fuel that isn’t burned off and will ignite in the exhaust. Someone please correct me because I feel like I’m missing points here but that is what I think it is.

That's sorta what I assumed a "burble tune" does .....
Couldn"t that create non-compliant emissions for testing??

 

[BoostedScarlett]

That's sorta what I assumed a "burble tune" does .....
Couldn"t that create non-compliant emissions for testing??

Well your not dumping fuel at idle sooo... I don’t think it would cause any issues.

 

[Bullitt0819]

Not exactly on-topic, but I'll mention this and maybe save someone some grief later on. I took my mom's 2000 Lincoln LS in for a smog check a while ago--if you're not familiar with the car, it's basically a Jag S-Type with different sheet metal--and it failed the cat converter test. I'd had a 'Change oil now' message that I couldn't figure out how to clear--and was too lazy to read the OM--so I thought 'Screw it, I'll just clear all the codes with my OBDII reader.' It turns out the cat test, or at least part of it, involves reading the cat's statistics--apparently, it's pretty good at reading its own status--so, because I'd cleared the cat's memory it failed. I had to drive a good 50 or more highway miles and have it retested a couple times before it would finally pass the test (which, for a newer California car is just a visual inspection and a reading of the ECU for codes and status). So, the moral is if you mess with the ECU much, or any, you might be asking for some hassle come smog time.

 

[Kong76]

You guys are getting f'ed! What a pain in the ass!
Here is good old Commie-fornia, we don't have to smog a new car for 8 years! And then only every other year after that.
It was 6 years, but they changed it to 8 last year. You do have to pay a $25 fee each year.

No chit.... I was not aware of the 8 year ruling. Is that for new vehicle sales after that law or does my 16 qualify?

 

[Cardude99]

In red. You're speaking your own language. Be plain.

What he said made plenty of sense. Clear as day if you have an Ecoboost

 

[MikeyV]

No chit.... I was not aware of the 8 year ruling. Is that for new vehicle sales after that law or does my 16 qualify?

I'm not sure, but I think it's retroactive. I just paid my reg on my '14 (bought in July of '14) which would be 6 years. I should ask my cousin, he bought his '14 in Nov '13, so this November would be 7 years. That would be the test.

 

[Bullitt0819]

I'm not sure, but I think it's retroactive. I just paid my reg on my '14 (bought in July of '14) which would be 6 years. I should ask my cousin, he bought his '14 in Nov '13, so this November would be 7 years. That would be the test.

" Smog Checks are required biennially (every other year) on vehicles more than eight model-years old. Additionally, a Smog Check is required if you sell a vehicle that is more than four model-years old and when registering an out-of-state vehicle for the first time in California. "

https://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/Consum...1-how-often-does-my-vehicle-have-to-be-tested

Edit: Some counties are exempt. Also, they changed the rule so that MY 1975 and older don't have to be smogged at all.

 

[MikeyV]

Thanks for posting the actual language. Seems clear to me. Anything under 8 model years.

I don' t know how long the 1975 law has been in effect. I had a '71 Mach 1 I bough tin 1994 and it was exempt then.

I heard some talk of raising that to 1985...that would be great. NASCAR style T-Bird.

 

[gixxersixxerman]

No chit.... I was not aware of the 8 year ruling. Is that for new vehicle sales after that law or does my 16 qualify?

Like Mikey said i think its retroactive, so it should qualify and if you read the link Bullitt posted its states " Smog Checks are required biennially (every other year) on vehicles more than eight model-years old " . Also our abatement fee is $20 for up to 6 years and $25 for year 7 and 8. which im ok with, id rather pay the 20-25 dollars for "nothing" then to pay or hell even have free emissions test. because my ass would fail it and im not replacing these headers back and forth every other year lol. In fact once my 8 years is up ill be moving registration to Nevada and only have to pass a OBD2 check for the smog check and allowed 1 not ready. hopefully that stays the same from here on out.

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